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Re: Is Adele Fat?

Her music certainly isn't phat.
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Re: Is Adele Fat?

Interesting, Adele thinks that being overweight had actually helped her...

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Amongst other things, the private songstress muses on her size: “Sometimes” she says, “I’m curious to know if I would have been as successful if I wasn’t plus-size. I think I remind everyone of themselves. Not saying everyone is my size, but it’s relatable because I’m not perfect, and I think a lot of people are portrayed as perfect, unreachable and untouchable.” As someone who would also be described as plus-size, I’m pretty sure she’s right.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/wom...fat-woman.html

She seems down to earth...

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On her appearance: "I like having my hair and face done, but I'm not going to lose weight because someone tells me to. I make music to be a musician not to be on the cover of Playboy."
On dieting: "I don't want to eat a Caesar salad with no dressing; why would I do that? I ain't got time for this, just be happy and don't be stupid."
On friendships: "I have insecurities of course, but I don't hang out with anyone who points them out to me."
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If the poll was about whether or not she was skinny, would that be judging her?

What if it were about her height?

If there were a poll about whether the sky were baby blue, royal blue, cobalt blue, or just plain blue - would it be judgmental to answer? Or just a matter of observance and opinion?
its the intonation of the question. The "but its just an innocent observation" argument incidentally is also the one that people who have strong expressions of things like skin colour often use: "no guvnor, ive got no problem with them, i was just saying like, i find that they have brown skin just interesting." (to be absolutely completely clear I do not think for a second that you or anyone on EF would hold such views, but on this question its a relevant analogy - the "is adele fat ?" is absolutely judgemental. anyone claiming it is not is blatently lying.

No one poses the question "do you think person x is fat ?" in a non judgemental fashion unless they are a doctor diagnosing them for possible treatment to do with such a condition.

Its a sad fact for people who are overweight that there is such an automatic judgement made of them.

While Adele may (or may not be, I dont know) "fat" right now she certainly attracts the "lazy fat cow" assumption by a lot of people. For every Adele there will be someone who is equally "fat" because they have been through abuse and eat as a comfort from it, or have suffered a bereavement and eat through loneliness and misery. For the Lazy Fat Cow brigade however there is no excuse: those fat slags should just stop eating pies and they might look a bit more attractive to us Alpha Males.
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She is great!!!

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Its a sad fact for people who are overweight that there is such an automatic judgement made of them.

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Yep, everyone is judging based on some subjective criteria. Don't see how everyone will ever stop this...especially on internet.
You, for instance, might not like people who dress in a certain way. Or speak in a certain way. Or whatever. Let's not be more Catholic than the Pope, everyone is biased.
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Re: Is Adele Fat?

Is Adele fat? Yes, and she has a nice face too. I enjoy looking at her when she sings.

As a part-time musician, I'm aware that when someone's on the stage, they're regarded as eye candy and we assign attractive people further positive qualities that are the product of our imagination and stereotypes.
Sorry- it's an unavoidable part of show business.

I see it sometimes on facebook that attractive people posing with an instrument, even they are really lousy musicians or even can't play, are getting very enthusiastic responses on the level of "looking gooood!".

On the other hand, accomplished musicians posting videos where they're playing live and they're awesome, but unfortunately not looking good (fat, sweating, not smiling, not pretty)- and the video gets minimum exposure.

And one more off-topic comment- singer Alison Moyet is making a comeback and she's not fat anymore- she is now thin and amazingly attractive. The change seem to be perceived very well when she performs these days.
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Yep, everyone is judging based on some subjective criteria. Don't see how everyone will ever stop this...especially on internet.
You, for instance, might not like people who dress in a certain way. Or speak in a certain way. Or whatever. Let's not be more Catholic than the Pope, everyone is biased.
Exactly. So maybe we should cut out the fake innocence people are claiming and retitle the thread to 'is Adele a lazy fat cow ?' don't you think ?
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Exactly. So maybe we should cut out the fake innocence people are claiming and retitle the thread to 'is Adele a lazy fat cow ?' don't you think ?
She's fat. That's a fact. She's brave enough to admit it.

For some reason, you want to deny this- or pass judgement on her for not being skinny, or look the other way. Are you fat? If so, maybe you have some issues about your own body image and self-esteem. I bet if Adele had low self-esteem, she wouldn't be nearly as successful as she is today.

Good on her.

End the fat-shaming - we need more fat pride in our society.

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She's fat. That's a fact. She's brave enough to admit it.



For some reason, you want to deny this- or pass judgement on her for not being skinny, or look the other way. Are you fat? If so, maybe you have some issues about your own body image and self-esteem. I bet if Adele had low self-esteem, she wouldn't be nearly as successful as she is today.



Good on her.



End the fat-shaming - we need more fat pride in our society.




As if. You might be right, but somehow it seems tongue in cheek.
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She's fat. That's a fact. She's brave enough to admit it.

Good on her.

End the fat-shaming - we need more fat pride in our society.

This is great to hear. I love the way you are so positive towards helping people with weight control issues. Gold medal mr pilatus1.
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And one more off-topic comment- singer Alison Moyet is making a comeback and she's not fat anymore- she is now thin and amazingly attractive. The change seem to be perceived very well when she performs these days.
Thanks for the heads up on that. Just googled her latest photos and she looks great.

When she was at the height of her fame, my best mate looked like her...tall, big built, etc... Even had the same jaw line. You should see her now! She's 51, fabulous looking, elegant and travels to World as a director with her her company. As with Alison Moyet, it's as if she grew into her looks.

I can't imagine anyone would but a complete moron would think that Adele's lazy. She's accomplished a hell of a lot more than the vast majority of people her age.

Personally, I love her altruism. Not one for the big charity gestures, she collects for charity every day of her tours, to the point that it's on her rider.
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This is great to hear. I love the way you are so positive towards helping people with weight control issues. Gold medal mr pilatus1.
I could lose a few kg myself, but i'm not ashamed of it in any way. I could just eat less and exercise more, it's not so hard to do.

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Exactly. So maybe we should cut out the fake innocence people are claiming and retitle the thread to 'is Adele a lazy fat cow ?' don't you think ?
No, this is your projection. Adele might be overweight but I don't know why do you seem so keen to imply that everyone who admits she is fat also thinks she must be a lazy cow. Some dots are missing here IMO. If you are overweight yourself I can understand the fear of being judged based on really superficial things, but don't assume everyone is a moron.
As for OP, I have a feeling he wanted to stir people up and he made it.
(he probably has a gorgeous 20 something tall, skinny, long legs and big boobs girlfriend - the dream of every man. And he himself looks like Matthew McConaughey..or sometin' )
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And he himself looks like Matthew McConaughey..or sometin' )
He was wearing a skirt last time I saw him.
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He was wearing a skirt last time I saw him.
See what I mean? He even has good taste, he's perfect in every way.
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As for OP, I have a feeling he wanted to stir people up and he made it.
... or he was responding to something which was in the news back in 2012.
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No, this is your projection. Adele might be overweight but I don't know why do you seem so keen to imply that everyone who admits she is fat also thinks she must be a lazy cow. Some dots are missing here IMO. If you are overweight yourself I can understand the fear of being judged based on really superficial things, but don't assume everyone is a moron.
As for OP, I have a feeling he wanted to stir people up and he made it.
(he probably has a gorgeous 20 something tall, skinny, long legs and big boobs girlfriend - the dream of every man. And he himself looks like Matthew McConaughey..or sometin' )
I dunno, perhaps we just assume things differently. Where I grew up, if you said "that sarah, christ she's fat", just didnt seem like an innocent observation. Rather like the comment "joanne, yeah man, she's ugly" - again, strangely it wasnt a scientific statement on her aesthetic appearance simply for the logical truth of it.

If I'm overweight then you are saying you can understand where I'm coming from, which is good. if I'm not overweight can you still get it, or is there some more analysis of me needed ?
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I dunno, perhaps we just assume things differently. Where I grew up, if you said "that sarah, christ she's fat", just didnt seem like an innocent observation. Rather like the comment "joanne, yeah man, she's ugly" - again, strangely it wasnt a scientific statement on her aesthetic appearance simply for the logical truth of it.

If I'm overweight then you are saying you can understand where I'm coming from, which is good. if I'm not overweight can you still get it, or is there some more analysis of me needed ?
Yes, we just assume things differently and you didn't seem aware of this fact.
If you can stop people who are making wrong assumptions about overweight people you can stop them making wrong assumptions about other cathegories too. Not possible.
Being overweight is a fact (we all know about BMI and other scientific measurements) which could be caused by a variety of factors, if somebody sees the whole thing in black and white it is their fault for being ignorant.
Being ugly is not a fact. Same way as a music genre or some vocal techniques are not liked by everyone. It's a question of taste. Even so, I personally wouldn't be bothered if someone else thinks I'm ugly. Or I play guitar very badly.

Maybe it would be good for you to ignore some weight related comments.
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Yes, we just assume things differently and you didn't seem aware of this fact.
If you can stop people who are making wrong assumptions about overweight people you can stop them making wrong assumptions about other cathegories too. Not possible.
Being overweight is a fact (we all know about BMI and other scientific measurements) which could be caused by a variety of factors, if somebody sees the whole thing in black and white it is their fault for being ignorant.
Being ugly is not a fact. Same way as a music genre or some vocal techniques are not liked by everyone. It's a question of taste. Even so, I personally wouldn't be bothered if someone else thinks I'm ugly.

Maybe it would be good for you to ignore some weight related comments.
I can't ignore weight related comments though. I can't ignore race ones either. Or hate ones. I'm just like that. The Internet allows complete cowards to act like tough guys dishing out fatty lines along with the rest of it. Won't stop me pointing out its wrong.

I am in good shape, by the way. In all my 43 years I've never had a comment about weight in my life. I'm utterly average, I just hate people who like to beat up others, like you.
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I can't ignore weight related comments though. I can't ignore race ones either. Or hate ones. I'm just like that.
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I'm utterly average, I just hate people who like to beat up others, like you.
Don't you see any contradiction here?

Really, let's leave it at that. You are not funny. I think I personally was pretty clear about the whole "Is Adele fat?" thing. I don't judge people based on their weight but if others do so I can't do anything to stop them so these reactions seem very childish to me.
I think I know better than arguing with someone like you anymore.

Perhaps you hate Corbets too, or anyone else who has the same view or just different than yours...

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Irrelevant to her singing, yes. Relevant to other topics of discussion? Perhaps, if you're having a discussion on how celebrities function as role models and kids see that it's ok to be fat and therefore increase the costs of healthcare in the long run... blah. Relevant to that maybe, interesting to me not so much.

As for whether she's fat or not, that's (more or less) a fact. There are scales to judge such things (e.g. BMI, for all its flaws) and saying "she is fat" has nothing to do with any "moral" judgement as implied by another poster (until we get to the part where people start saying "it's not ok to be fat" - which I agree with, but is a moral judgement and is different from "she is fat").

She's overweight, and not talking about it won't change it. So am I (albeit not by much these days), and I expect many of the keyboard warriors on this forum. For whatever reason, this interests some people. If it doesn't interest you (today marks the first time I clicked into this thread), then move on.
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