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Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

REPUBLICAN congressman has sparked fury by claiming that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.
Representative Todd Akin , a Missouri congressman who is also his party's nominee for the US Senate, said that "from what I understand from doctors" women's bodies naturally reject pregnancies that result from rape.


The six-term representative made the comments as he argued that abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape or incest.


"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare," Mr Akin told a local television channel. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.



"But let's assume that maybe that didn't work or something. You know I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child."


Mr Akin's comments may damages his chances of defeating the incumbent Democrat senator Claire McCaskill, who is a vulnerable target for Republicans in November's elections.


Mrs McCaskill seized on the remarks, tweeting: "As a woman & former prosecutor who handled 100s of rape cases, I'm stunned by Rep Akin's comments about victims this AM."


In the face of a widespread backlash on the internet, Mr Akin hastily released a statement claiming that he had "misspoke".


"In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year," he said.



Democrats have repeatedly attacked Republicans this year on women's issues, claiming that Mitt Romney and his congressional allies are waging a "war on women" by seeking to curb abortion rights.

CAme across this today while reading the paper on line! Thought it was ... erm.. facinating so i wanted to share!
How do these people get to where they are in the political ladder!!
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

What on earth is 'legitimate rape'?
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What on earth is 'legitimate rape'?
I think it implies that it's a genuine case and not fabricated or made up by the victim.

Preposterous theory from an ignorant fool!
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:10
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

phew... I used to think it was only back home that politics attracted morons. happy to hear that it happens everywhere.
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:11
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

Sigh. Stupid. Old. White. Male.

Let's hope the voters of Missouri send this moron packing:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...i-senate-race/
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:14
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

Reminds me of South African President Jacob Zuma, who claimed that if you had a shower after sex it would wash away any HIV infection
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

People spouting this sort of drivel deserve to be the guinea pigs for testing of their "hypothesis."

I would bet he would not want to wait to see if his wife's or daughter's body successfully "shut the whole thing down" if they were perchance raped.

Ignorant SOB.
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:21
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People spouting this sort of drivel deserve to be the guinea pigs for testing of their "hypothesis."

I would bet he would not want to wait to see if his wife's or daughter's body successfully "shut the whole thing down" if they were perchance raped.

Ignorant SOB.
Bit harsh In any case, his political career is pretty much finished.
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"In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year," he said.
This sentence kind of summed up how out of touch this knobhead must be.

How can anyone who has not been raped "empathise" with a rape victim... Sympathise, maybe.
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People spouting this sort of drivel deserve to be the guinea pigs for testing of their "hypothesis."

I would bet he would not want to wait to see if his wife's or daughter's body successfully "shut the whole thing down" if they were perchance raped.

Ignorant SOB.
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Bit harsh In any case, his political career is pretty much finished.
Sorry, I reread and realized that it sounded like I meant that he deserved to face the situation of his wife or daughter having been raped. That is not at all what I meant to say. Rather, I meant that it is unjust that he is able to say these things when he himself is male and therefore could not ever be in the position to see for himself if his body functioned in the way he describes, post-rape.

It is true that I don't believe that he would take these doctors' word for it if it was his wife or daughter who was in that situation.
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Bit harsh In any case, his political career is pretty much finished.
Not harsh at all. Wouldn't be my choice of words, given I'm not merkanian, but perfectly justified, IMO. The sad thing is that such behaviour often doesn't seem to put off the sort of people who'd vote in his direction anyway
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:35
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

And yet, people like this get elected in the U.S. every year. You'd think voters would catch on, but nope. He can just say he "misspoke" and all is forgiven.
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Old 20.08.2012, 14:42
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I think it implies that it's a genuine case and not fabricated or made up by the victim.

Preposterous theory from an ignorant fool!
No, I think it's more sinister than that. I believe he means that if a woman really didn't want the sex (rape) her body would reject the foetus whereas if her body hasn't rejected it, then she wanted to have sex and therefore shouldn't be allowed an abortion. The more worrying thing is that there are still doctors who believe the same rubbish.

I wish these proxy "do gooders" would learn that it's my body and no one has any right to tell me what I can do with it, be it have an abortion, take my own life or have sex with whomever I want providing they're willing.

Maybe someone out there would be willing to bugger him - then let's see if he calls that "legitimate rape". Pity he wouldn't get pregnant as a consequence.
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Re: Republican congressman claims 'legitimate rape' does not cause pregnancy

So what he's saying is: where there has been a rape (with additional violence?) pregnancy is very rare. He's wrong. It's about 5% - the same as for a woman having consensual unprotected sex as a one off.
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Empathy is being able to understand the feelings of someone else, by putting yourself hypothetically into their situation. While you might not have experienced what they have, you can still empathise with them. For example, you might be a single adult, yet still emphathise with a parent with a sick child.

It is, however, impossible for a woman to empathise with a man suffering from a man-cold. So there do exist some situations where empathy might not be possible. It could be argued that rape is one of these, but I don't think so.

However, as the guy is a politician, his ability to empathise or genuinely sympathise is very much impaired, so I wouldn't necessarily take him at his word.
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No, I think it's more sinister than that. I believe he means that if a woman really didn't want the sex (rape) her body would reject the foetus whereas if her body hasn't rejected it, then she wanted to have sex and therefore shouldn't be allowed an abortion..
Sadly, I think your interpretation of his words is 100% spot on.
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Old 20.08.2012, 16:13
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Reminds me of South African President Jacob Zuma, who claimed that if you had a shower after sex it would wash away any HIV infection
Er, doesn't it then?

I mean seriously?

S h i t .....
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Only in the US you can become a congress member without knowing where babies come from
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Extreme social conservatism based in paternalistic ignorance?! I, for one, am shocked.
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I hope you're right, but it is the South. Speaking from experience, there are way too many who vote Republican across the board there who won't be swayed even by this.
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Er, doesn't it then?

I mean seriously?

S h i t .....
It doesn't prevent pregancy either. Daddy.
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This sentence kind of summed up how out of touch this knobhead must be.

How can anyone who has not been raped "empathise" with a rape victim... Sympathise, maybe.
In all fairness, we are not aware if he is a rape victim or not, dangerous to assume.

That being said, if he was, perhaps he's making the statement based on his personal experience, as I do not believe he would have gotten pregnant if he was raped.
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