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When a Muslim kills someone, it's terrorism. When a non-Muslim kills someone, he's a nut job.
Exactly what i thought.... No media blow up... i wonder why
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I only see the head paragraph which gives no reason. So assuming it was an ambush, how would having a gun have prevented the attack?
I don't think having a gun would have prevented the attack, I was simply posting the link since there has been an increase in attacks on westerners in Saudi.
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Old 12.02.2015, 12:17
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First gray wolf seen at Grand Canyon in 70 years killed by Utah hunter

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ed-utah-hunter

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When a Muslim kills someone, it's terrorism. When a non-Muslim kills someone, he's a nut job.
When an organization attacks a civilian to reach a political goal - terrorism.

When a person attacks someone because he hates he/she belongs to a group (Muslims/Jews/Blacks) - it's a hate crime.

the two are not mutually exclusive.
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Exactly what i thought.... No media blow up... i wonder why
Local media in the US have covered it. But they're framing it as a parking dispute, not a hate crime or terrorism, both of which warrant a federal investigation. Oh and I didn't mean to suggest the shooter was just a loon. I wonder that if these folks weren't Muslim, the shooter would never have shot them. ing terrorist.
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First gray wolf seen at Grand Canyon in 70 years killed by Utah hunter

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ed-utah-hunter
Most likely an honest mistake. I imagine that wolf, after traveling that far, probably looked pretty similar to a coyote. Sad story all the same.

When I was growing up in the wilds of Northern California, it was always open season for hunting coyotes with no limit. Not sure what the laws are in Arizona these days but I imagine that it would still be the same and a hunter, not even imagining that there could be a wolf in his sights took the shot without hesitation. Or it could have been some whack-job, fundamentalist-polygamist Mormon who are more populous in that region than wolves, protecting his flock.
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Exactly what i thought.... No media blow up... i wonder why
every single US media outlet has the shootings on its front page, and clearly identifies the shooter as an atheist (which may or may not qualify as religious affiliation, depending on your point of view). I am utterly baffled at the notion that somehow the murders are not being covered sufficiently and/or being covered in a manner that differs at all from coverage of murders not involving Muslims.

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When an organization attacks a civilian to reach a political goal - terrorism.

When a person attacks someone because he hates he/she belongs to a group (Muslims/Jews/Blacks) - it's a hate crime.

the two are not mutually exclusive.
What does it take to be a member of an organization? The loonies who claim to be supporting IS when killing people acted alone. So? Are they belonging to the organization or not? They are supporters, not members.

The man who just killed the 3 Muslim students, maybe he is also supporting an ideology.

When do we define a nut job, a terrorist and hate crime?

Muslims are now being terrorized by many people. Hate crimes, destructions of mosques, stores, etc. those who are doing it share the same ideology and are sharing a movement. This is terrorism. To terrorize someone.
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What does it take to be a member of an organization? The loonies who claim to be supporting IS when killing people acted alone. So? Are they belonging to the organization or not? They are supporters, not members.

The man who just killed the 3 Muslim students, maybe he is also supporting an ideology.

When do we define a nut job, a terrorist and hate crime?

Muslims are now being terrorized by many people. Hate crimes, destructions of mosques, stores, etc. those who are doing it share the same ideology and are sharing a movement. This is terrorism. To terrorize someone.
Fair enough, I'll change it to "When an organization or it's supporters attacks a civilian to reach a political goal - terrorism."
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Fair enough, I'll change it to "When an organization or it's supporters attacks a civilian to reach a political goal - terrorism."
There you go.

So the guy we are talking about here might be a supporter of a group wanting to attack Muslims as revenge.

If it's the truth, he is a terrorist, correct?
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3 Muslim students killed in USA #‎ChapelHillShooting‬

For those who have not seen the news.
The victims were identified as 23-year-old Deah Shaddy Barakat, his 21-year-old wife, Yusor Mohammad, and her sister, 19-year-old Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha, police said.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...083909613.html

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...ing-three-dead
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Looking forward to the mass "not in our name" protests led by Richard Dawkins.
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There you go.

So the guy we are talking about here might be a supporter of a group wanting to attack Muslims as revenge.

If it's the truth, he is a terrorist, correct?
Correct. Until you find this group he is racist murderer, not a terrorist.
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Or it could have been some whack-job, fundamentalist-polygamist Mormon who are more populous in that region than wolves, protecting his flock.




I miss driving through Colorado City. Had some experience in that area?
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Old 12.02.2015, 16:22
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Correct. Until you find this group he is racist murderer, not a terrorist.
How do we even know it was motivated by race? The shooter is a fan of the Southern Poverty Law Center. Looks like any other day in America.

What happened to the "It's got nothing to do with Islam" crowd? This has nothing to do with Mormonism.

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First gray wolf seen at Grand Canyon in 70 years killed by Utah hunter

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ed-utah-hunter
Yeah, that reminds me of Swiss freaking out because of a wolf and a bear...
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Re: A shooting just happened in ( *fill in the blank * )

The North Carolina shooting was over a parking space, and the shooter does not seem to be motivated by bigotry or terrorism. But nevermind the facts for a moment, Saudi Arabia calls it a heinous terrorist attack, and calls for an end to aggression towards Muslims. I whole heartedly agree. Now, if they would only call for an end to aggression towards non-Muslims as well.

Those three Muslims lead beautiful lives. It's so tragic when the good die young. May they be comforted in Paradise.
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Meantime in Denmark.

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one person was killed and three police officers injured at a free speech debate in a cafe on Saturday.

In the second attack, a Jewish man was killed and two police officers wounded near the city's main synagogue.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31475803
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Looking forward to the mass "not in our name" protests led by Richard Dawkins.
Don't you understand the difference?

Only religious people are wicked.

Therefore this killer must have been religious.

It really is time to stamp out this cancer called religion once and for all.

What can we learn about peace and love from the likes of Buddha or Jesus when we can watch w*nkers with a superiority complex like Richard Dawkins on TV?

Did you know that Dawkins died to save slobs like you? Now show a bit of gratitude.

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Don't you understand the difference?

Only religious people are wicked.

Therefore this killer must have been religious.

It really is time to stamp out this cancer called religion once and for all.

What can we learn about peace and love from the likes of Buddha or Jesus when we can watch w*nkers with a superiority complex like Richard Dawkins on TV?

Did you know that Dawkins died to save slobs like you? Now show a bit of gratitude.

Touchy?
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