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Old 07.07.2016, 16:05
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But the victim was black so that doesn't really count. If a black guy had killed a white woman - then I think the US would need to have a serious conversation about gun control.
Why mention gun control when you can blame Trump directly?
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Old 07.07.2016, 16:08
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Why mention gun control when you can blame Obamacare Trump directly?
Jeez - let the guy get it power first. I've fixed your post so it has a more valid/topical blame target
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Old 07.07.2016, 16:14
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but the victim was black so that doesn't really count. If a black guy had killed a white woman - then i think the us would need to have a serious conversation about gun control for black people.
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Old 07.07.2016, 17:40
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I think on a recent blog post on his Trump-watching blog, Scott Adams posted that democrat voters kill more people with guns that republican voters.

His logic being that people with a "suntan" living in inner cities are more likely to vote Dem than Rep, and are also more likely to be involved in gangs, and gang shootings make up a significant portion of gun-related eaths.

I'm not sure if all the intermediate assumptions line up, and of course the piece was pretty much tngue in cheeck, but if we assume it is so, the logical conclusion would be stricter gun control for Dem voters, not NRA members.
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Old 07.07.2016, 19:03
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I'm not sure if all the intermediate assumptions line up, and of course the piece was pretty much tngue in cheeck, but if we assume it is so, the logical conclusion would be stricter gun control for Dem voters, not NRA members.
Are they actual voters? Or demographic voters?

After all in 2008 5.3m Americans were unable to vote having had the right withdrawn under Felony disenfranchisement (Wiki it). And guess which groups that hits the hardest?

The NRA's main argument is "guns don't kill people, people kill people" which can be neatly dressed up in any demographic split to suggest that happy white people don't shoot people and should therefore be able to buy lots of guns and ammunition.
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Old 07.07.2016, 19:15
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The NRA's main argument is "guns don't kill people, people kill people" which can be neatly dressed up in any demographic split to suggest that happy white people don't shoot people and should therefore be able to buy lots of guns and ammunition.
People kill people. Therefore we need to regulate what kinds of weapons people have access to. It's not guns that need regulating. It's people.
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Old 07.07.2016, 20:13
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I lived half a mile away from the place. I am so angry that our generation just continues what the past ones did.
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Old 07.07.2016, 20:58
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I lived half a mile away from the place. I am so angry that our generation just continues what the past ones did.

When the law pays attention to it, it will happen less often, Right now it's a shooting gallery.
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Old 08.07.2016, 08:14
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Yet another case of white cop kills black victim. I wouldn't be surprised to see the next wave of riots.
Sadly, you didn't need to wait long. Dallas. 4 police officers dead.
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Old 08.07.2016, 10:07
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Sadly, you didn't need to wait long. Dallas. 4 police officers dead.
An eye for an eye, that's just crazy (though somewhat understandable). And instead of helping the problem lessen, if anything it will deepen.
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Sadly, you didn't need to wait long. Dallas. 4 police officers dead.
5 now dead. 11 shot, one civilian included (mom of 4 who brought her kids). What a horrible situation.
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Old 08.07.2016, 10:18
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Old 08.07.2016, 10:26
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An eye for an eye, that's just crazy (though somewhat understandable). And instead of helping the problem lessen, if anything it will deepen.
Killing police that had nothing to do with the original incident is "somewhat understandable"? Can you please explain? How is targeting all police for the actions of a few bad ones "understandable"? Would you also view killing random Muslims in response to the increased amount of Islamic terrorist attacks also "somewhat understandable"? Just curious....
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And instead of helping the problem lessen, if anything it will deepen.
Yeah, but not in the way you'd think, I guess. I think the police will be muuuch more cautious with black suspects from now on, but they'll "compensate" by being even more savage with other groups - Mexicans, Puerto Ricans etc. There's something inherently wrong with some people and they'll always find a weaker group to abuse more.
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Old 08.07.2016, 10:38
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Killing police that had nothing to do with the original incident is "somewhat understandable"? Can you please explain? How is targeting all police for the actions of a few bad ones "understandable"? Would you also view killing random Muslims in response to the increased amount of Islamic terrorist attacks also "somewhat understandable"? Just curious....
Understandable is not the same as acceptable, right or good. And no esto, I won't explain it to you because you don't come across as looking for a constructive discussion.
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Old 08.07.2016, 10:46
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Understandable is not the same as acceptable, right or good. And no esto, I won't explain it to you because you don't come across as looking for a constructive discussion.
I think you won't answer the question because it will expose your hypocrisy. Or you simply can't explain. To blame me (as a person) for posing the question is a very poor answer in itself, BTW
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I think you won't answer the question because it will expose your hypocrisy. Or you simply can't explain. To blame me (as a person) for posing the question is a very poor answer in itself, BTW
Sure I could, but it would be a waste of time. Just one hint to you: A comparable situation exists with Israel and the Palestineans. And with that I'm done replying to you.

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Yeah, but not in the way you'd think, I guess. I think the police will be muuuch more cautious with black suspects from now on, but they'll "compensate" by being even more savage with other groups - Mexicans, Puerto Ricans etc. There's something inherently wrong with some people and they'll always find a weaker group to abuse more.
If you do, you are right to think that I meant it in a "Look, they ARE dangerous" kind of way, and use that to justify further violence or abuse. I think targeting another hispanics instead would happen already, there are half again as many hispanics in the US than blacks.
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Old 08.07.2016, 11:01
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Sure I could, but it would be a waste of time. Just one hint to you: A comparable situation exists with Israel and the Palestineans. And with that I'm done replying to you.


If you do, you are right to think that I meant it in a "Look, they ARE dangerous" kind of way, and use that to justify further violence or abuse. I think targeting another hispanics instead would happen already, there are half again as many hispanics in the US than blacks.
"A comparable situation exists with Israel and the Palestinians. " You are talking about the Palestinians firing rockets into Israel that kill or injure random people?
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Old 08.07.2016, 11:09
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Sure I could, but it would be a waste of time. Just one hint to you: A comparable situation exists with Israel and the Palestineans. And with that I'm done replying to you.
You can't explain your position to me, because you can't explain it to yourself. The killing of random innocent people because of the actions of a few is sad and wrong, period. If you can have sympathy for people who kill random *anyone* for the acts of a few of their group (*police, Mulsims, Isrealis, etc..) then you really need to re-think your position.

Explaining it on an open, public forum is a good place to start. You'll get called out on BS that might otherwise float within your own group who shares your same extremist views.

...and with that, I am done replying to you
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Old 08.07.2016, 11:55
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"understandable" was definitely a poor choice of words to describe the recent situation.


I think we know what you intended to portray: That perhaps you have some empathy for people who feel oppressed, and lost without a voice.


but again, terrible choice of word.
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