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Re: A shooting just happened in ( *fill in the blank * )

Zurich shooter is still missing
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Old 20.12.2016, 10:21
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I thought these things only happen to France and Germany.
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Old 20.12.2016, 10:45
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Re: A shooting just happened in ( *fill in the blank * )

That body they found was that of the shooter.

Press conference later on today. What do we reckon the motive was?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sw..._medium=Social
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Old 20.12.2016, 10:55
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Or a showdown between various variants of Islam believers... Shia/Sunni, or just between moderates and Salafists? Who knows, but this isn't good news at all.
On the news they were saying this particular mosque is frequented by Somalis, Eritreans etc. So sounds like relatively recent immigrants not connected to the more established parts of Switzerland's Mulsim community.

Those are also countries afflicted by unrest that is only indirectly (if at all) connected to what is going on in Syria etc but has a more tribal component. My guess is that this attack is about score settling that has little to do with the overall bigger icture of the other attacks.
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Old 20.12.2016, 10:57
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That body they found was that of the shooter.

Press conference later on today. What do we reckon the motive was?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sw..._medium=Social
I'd put money on a gang squabble.
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Old 20.12.2016, 11:19
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"Accomplice" may well be a victim.
Some newspapers are saying the "Accomplice" was the original Polish truck driver who was kidnapped and shot
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I'd put money on a gang squabble.
The reports last night said the body was that of a young boy.
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Old 20.12.2016, 11:43
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Some newspapers are saying the "Accomplice" was the original Polish truck driver who was kidnapped and shot
If the truck was hijacked, this escalates the whole truck driver safety thing to a whole new level. There were plenty of reports of truck drivers in Calais being threatened by people from the jungle camp. But this was mostly to make them cooperate in smuggling people. Threatening them to make them accomplives in terrorism is a whole new level.

If in future this means trucks will require extra security, such as being escorted by security people, driving only in convoys etc, this will have massive economic implications for the delivery of goods.
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If in future this means trucks will require extra security, such as being escorted by security people, driving only in convoys etc, this will have massive economic implications for the delivery of goods.
I aree with your thoughts, but because of the bolded part your conclusion is still wrong - [dons cynicist's hat] truck drivers aren't important enough for this to overturn worldwide production and trade structures.

So, if neccessary in the first place, other and less costly ways to to improve the situation will be found.
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Old 20.12.2016, 15:20
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Watching to the Press Conference from the Zurich Police. Sounds like a bonafide nutter. Maybe a neo nazi.

What they have seen so far leans towards occultism. Good grief.

http://www.zh.ch/internet/de/aktuell...nzen/live.html

http://www.blick.ch/news/schiesserei...id5923419.html
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Old 20.12.2016, 15:41
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Just heard from a friend who was in the Christmas market, luckily she could not find a WC so went in a bar and avoided the carnage by a couple of minutes.
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Old 20.12.2016, 17:21
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Watching to the Press Conference from the Zurich Police. Sounds like a bonafide nutter. Maybe a neo nazi.
Guy is originally from Ghana. And he seems also to be the one which stabbed the person which was found dead this weekend on a playground in Schwammendingen.

Now something for the laugh: Either watch Dave Chappelle's blind KKK or Adölfchen & Bdölfchen from the Bülent Ceylan show.
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Old 20.12.2016, 17:30
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Re: A shooting just happened in ( *fill in the blank * )

From NZZ just now (using Google translate):

The perpetrator, who on Monday night shot and injured three persons in a Zurich mosque, is dead.

The shooter, a 24-year-old Swiss with Ghanaian roots, is also responsible for the killing in Schwamendingen on Sunday.

It is the dead person found under the Gessner bridge. He killed himself.

The three injured from the mosque were emergency operated and are no longer in danger of life.

The offender has no connection to jihadism and was presumably not a right-wing extremist. He has dealt with occult topics and was known to the police as a bicycle thief.

Why the man has chosen the mosque visitors is not yet clear. The victim in Schwamendingen, on the other hand, knew the offender well.

The offender has a gun certificate for his pistol.
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That body they found was that of the shooter.

Press conference later on today. What do we reckon the motive was?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sw..._medium=Social
Mental problems
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Old 20.12.2016, 17:41
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Black neo nazi? That'll be a first.
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Old 20.12.2016, 17:54
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Black neo nazi? That'll be a first.
But we really do need to expunge these bicycle thieves from our Swiss streets...
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Old 20.12.2016, 18:21
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Maybe a neo nazi.
Not likely, seeing he's a Swiss of Ghanan extraction.

So either a plain nutter, or something more sinsiter. Some reports are linking him to occultism.

The police have linked him to various other crimes.
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If the truck was hijacked, this escalates the whole truck driver safety thing to a whole new level. There were plenty of reports of truck drivers in Calais being threatened by people from the jungle camp. But this was mostly to make them cooperate in smuggling people. Threatening them to make them accomplives in terrorism is a whole new level.

If in future this means trucks will require extra security, such as being escorted by security people, driving only in convoys etc, this will have massive economic implications for the delivery of goods.
After the Rodney King riots in L.A truck drivers in the U.S are now packing heat (guns) as standard trucking gear. They even have special holsters next to the shifter or stearing wheel so they only need a fraction of a second before would be hikacker notices he's looking down the barrel of a gun.
Seems E.U drivers should have the same protection, so long as they can pass background checks and the normal security procedure. I do realise that some truck drivers are less than perfect examples of our society and shouldnt own a gun. That said, 99% of them are honest hard woking people who deserve a chance to defend themselves.
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Old 21.12.2016, 11:13
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After the Rodney King riots in L.A truck drivers in the U.S are now packing heat (guns) as standard trucking gear. They even have special holsters next to the shifter or stearing wheel so they only need a fraction of a second before would be hikacker notices he's looking down the barrel of a gun.
Seems E.U drivers should have the same protection, so long as they can pass background checks and the normal security procedure. I do realise that some truck drivers are less than perfect examples of our society and shouldnt own a gun. That said, 99% of them are honest hard woking people who deserve a chance to defend themselves.
I expect more and more truck drivers are arming thenmselves, legally or otherwise. But I don't think the EU will tolerate it.
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