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Old 21.12.2016, 11:30
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I expect more and more truck drivers are arming thenmselves, legally or otherwise. But I don't think the EU will tolerate it.
The E.U needs to wake up because we are at WAR and the front lines are HERE and NOW. I'm not a pro gun nut, I wish they didnt exist, but the reality of todays world is just too dangerous for making guns illegal for the good guys. I am not suggesting we all carry guns, dont want that either. There is no easy solution really. But the reality is that only a gun can neutralize another gun. Or someone with extensive hand to hand combat or martial arts training, but even they are at a severe disadvantage.
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The E.U needs to wake up because we are at WAR and the front lines are HERE and NOW. I'm not a pro gun nut, I wish they didnt exist, but the reality of todays world is just too dangerous for making guns illegal for the good guys.
Wow!
An alarmist response to something that we, in Europe, have lived with for at least my 50+years. Yesterday, you said I'm "a winner" for not being affected by the threat of terrorism to change my plans for the day. The thing is, if I changed one thing about how I live because of a threat, I wouldn't have left the house since I was in a terror attack at 9yrs old. My cousin would never have returned to work after her Manchester place of employ was bombed in 1992. My partner's aunt, uncle and cousins would never have carried on after their Johannesburg cafe was bombed in 1987.

The usual suspects will probably pipe up and say I'm being 'dramatic', but I couldn't care less and they couldn't be more wrong. I'm a really grounded, boring realist. Shit happens. You get over it. You move on. I wouldn't say I'm resigned to terrorism, but I do believe that if it's not one bunch of bloody idiots, it's just going to be another. You can chase your tail all you want trying to solve it, but it's never going to go away.

As for carrying a gun in case I should happen across a terrorist ever again, which is exceptionally highly unlikely because they had their chance and failed, I can't find my house keys in a hurry in my handbag, never mind a gun. And if you think I'm getting a bigger handbag to accommodate that once in god knows how many million chance, nah! Not happening. I can't be bothered.

Must toddle off and do the recycling before OH flies back tomorrow. Maybe nip into town and indulge in a Gluhwein. So dramatic... not!
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Old 21.12.2016, 12:55
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Wow!
An alarmist response to something that we, in Europe, have lived with for at least my 50+years. Yesterday, you said I'm "a winner" for not being affected by the threat of terrorism to change my plans for the day. The thing is, if I changed one thing about how I live because of a threat, I wouldn't have left the house since I was in a terror attack at 9yrs old. My cousin would never have returned to work after her Manchester place of employ was bombed in 1992. My partner's aunt, uncle and cousins would never have carried on after their Johannesburg cafe was bombed in 1987.
Remind me never to play golf with you during a thunderstorm.
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Old 21.12.2016, 12:55
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the e.u needs to wake up because we are at war and the front lines are here and now. I'm not a pro gun nut, i wish they didnt exist, but the reality of todays world is just too dangerous for making guns illegal for the good guys. I am not suggesting we all carry guns, dont want that either. There is no easy solution really. But the reality is that only a gun can neutralize another gun. Or someone with extensive hand to hand combat or martial arts training, but even they are at a severe disadvantage.

bat shit crazy
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Old 21.12.2016, 12:58
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The E.U needs to wake up because we are at WAR and the front lines are HERE and NOW. I'm not a pro gun nut, I wish they didnt exist, but the reality of todays world is just too dangerous for making guns illegal for the good guys. I am not suggesting we all carry guns, dont want that either. There is no easy solution really. But the reality is that only a gun can neutralize another gun. Or someone with extensive hand to hand combat or martial arts training, but even they are at a severe disadvantage.

you carry a gun, I carry a gun, so you get a bigger gun, so I get a bigger gun, so you get a rocket launcher etc etc etc

get it??

no, thought not
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Remind me never to play golf with you during a thunderstorm.
Eww. Grown men in silly jumpers tidying up. Never going to happen. You're safe
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:10
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The E.U needs to wake up because we are at WAR and the front lines are HERE and NOW. I'm not a pro gun nut, I wish they didnt exist, but the reality of todays world is just too dangerous for making guns illegal for the good guys. I am not suggesting we all carry guns, dont want that either. There is no easy solution really. But the reality is that only a gun can neutralize another gun. Or someone with extensive hand to hand combat or martial arts training, but even they are at a severe disadvantage.
That's a load of tripe.

The world is safer now than it's ever been. We're not at war.

You've been watching too much Fox news and it's got to you.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:12
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Wow!
An alarmist response to something that we, in Europe, have lived with for at least my 50+years. Yesterday, you said I'm "a winner" for not being affected by the threat of terrorism to change my plans for the day. The thing is, if I changed one thing about how I live because of a threat, I wouldn't have left the house since I was in a terror attack at 9yrs old. My cousin would never have returned to work after her Manchester place of employ was bombed in 1992. My partner's aunt, uncle and cousins would never have carried on after their Johannesburg cafe was bombed in 1987.

The usual suspects will probably pipe up and say I'm being 'dramatic', but I couldn't care less and they couldn't be more wrong. I'm a really grounded, boring realist. Shit happens. You get over it. You move on. I wouldn't say I'm resigned to terrorism, but I do believe that if it's not one bunch of bloody idiots, it's just going to be another. You can chase your tail all you want trying to solve it, but it's never going to go away.

As for carrying a gun in case I should happen across a terrorist ever again, which is exceptionally highly unlikely because they had their chance and failed, I can't find my house keys in a hurry in my handbag, never mind a gun. And if you think I'm getting a bigger handbag to accommodate that once in god knows how many million chance, nah! Not happening. I can't be bothered.

Must toddle off and do the recycling before OH flies back tomorrow. Maybe nip into town and indulge in a Gluhwein. So dramatic... not!
Well said. Im not suggesting everyone to start carrying guns. Just those in higher risk situations. Airport, truck drivers and what ever tatic they think up next.

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bat shit crazy
For speaking the truth? Not sure if you noticed this or not but we are in proxy WW3. Quit believing the B.S press from BBC, CNN and the sorts. In todays world the front lines are no longer on the battlefield. It will only get worse until WE stop electing politicians who refuse to change the current rape and pilage for natural resources staus quo. Its our faults, we (the whole western world) have created this situation with our thirst for oil, endless growth economics and disposable consumerism. Cant blame them for fighting back. I would do the same except I wouldnt use cowardly tactics that target innocent individuals.......but then again we do the same with our carpet drone bombing.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:14
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That's a load of tripe.

The world is safer now than it's ever been. We're not at war.

You've been watching too much Fox news and it's got to you.
Sorry i dont watch any news. I do read but more important is that I have a security clearence. How I wish I could tell half of the truth.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:19
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I have a security clearence. How I wish I could tell half of the truth.

LOL from where? is your real name snowdon? there mere fact you have posted on an open forum that you have clearance proves you don't, or you want to be arrested.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:21
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Well said. Im not suggesting everyone to start carrying guns. Just those in higher risk situations. Airport, truck drivers and what ever tatic they think up next.
Airports already have armed police. Why would anyone want to carry a gun? I feel absolutely no need or desire to ever carry a gun, even though I'm a decent shot. Gun's don't stop bombs. They're most definitely not the cureall that some people would like to think they are.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:22
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you carry a gun, I carry a gun, so you get a bigger gun, so I get a bigger gun, so you get a rocket launcher etc etc etc

get it??

no, thought not
Oh FFS grow up. What kind of reasoning is that?
A sniper is 10 times more effective than a howitzer.
Deadly wepons are a fact of life, cant change that no matter how many laws you pass. The only thing we can do is change people and ourselves.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:25
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Sorry i dont watch any news. I do read but more important is that I have a security clearance.
But not a policy maker, obviously. Or luckily.

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How I wish I could tell half of the truth.
So half of what you say is rubbish?
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Deadly wepons are a fact of life, cant change that no matter how many laws you pass.
You can. The vast majority of the people I know have never touched a gun of any description.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:27
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Oh FFS grow up. What kind of reasoning is that?
A sniper is 10 times more effective than a howitzer.
Deadly wepons are a fact of life, cant change that no matter how many laws you pass. The only thing we can do is change people and ourselves.

ah ok, snipers on every roof it is then

a strange grasp of reality you have.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:28
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LOL from where? is your real name snowdon? there mere fact you have posted on an open forum that you have clearance proves you don't, or you want to be arrested.


Its not a big deal. 100,000+ people have a higher clearence than I. Posting that I have clearence is also no biggy. Posting what I know is something different as I would be breaking laws. The world of government employment is not as sexy as Hollywood would have you believe.
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Old 21.12.2016, 13:46
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But not a policy maker, obviously. Or luckily.



So half of what you say is rubbish?
Luckily I dont have a higher clearence. Once your considered an "asset" you can never live a normal life again.
Rubbish? More like an appetitzer. Far worse has been said or even written about by former Heads of various departments. Read more.
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You can. The vast majority of the people I know have never touched a gun of any description.
Thats cool. I havent touched a gun in years either and no desire to anytime soon. Read the rest of my post where I say the only thing we can change is people and ourselves. But really we can only change ourselves.

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ah ok, snipers on every roof it is then

a strange grasp of reality you have.
Your words not mine. What a strange fantasy you have.
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Old 21.12.2016, 14:32
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Once your considered an "asset" you can never live a normal life again.
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I have never met anyone who has said that they are an "asset" who actually is one. It's all in their make-believe world. I've met plenty like that.

People who are never mention it - especially on a public form.
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Old 21.12.2016, 14:40
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Well said. Im not suggesting everyone to start carrying guns. Just those in higher risk situations. Airport, truck drivers and what ever tatic they think up next.
Truck drivers carrying guns is pointless. The attacker has the element of surprise.
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