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Old 18.03.2019, 10:34
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Take it up with him, and I hope you have deep pockets.
It's a blatantly racist statement. I'm not in any way defending Mark Latham or the right wing movement in Australia or anywhere else, but the hypocrisy of Faruqi condemning the promotion of racism while simultaneously promoting racism,well.. pure fuel for the alt-right.

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I have the impression that there's a massive organized and well funded troll farm network out there on the web, in an effort to normalize alt-right racist sentiment. A browse through the comments section on sites like yah00 or utube is nauseating- there is more implied support for his actions (Christchurch murderer) than condemnation. By a factor of 10. Is it just the alt-right that comment? Putin bots sowing societal disharmony? I really doubt that the comments are representative of the public sentiment in general. If they are, that'd be worse than the existence of my hypothesized troll farm...fingers crossed?

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Old 18.03.2019, 10:44
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-foil hat on-

I have the impression that there's a massive organized and well funded troll farm network out there on the web, in an effort to normalize alt-right racist sentiment. A browse through the comments section on sites like yah00 or utube is nauseating- there is more implied support for his actions (Christchurch murderer) than condemnation. By a factor of 10. Is it just the alt-right that comment? Putin bots sowing societal disharmony? I really doubt that the comments are representative of the public sentiment in general. If they are, that'd be worse than the existence of my hypothesized troll farm...fingers crossed?

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Certainly in the case of YouTube (I don't know much about Yah00 and its forums), it is mainly 14 year old boys being "edgy", writing as much abhorrent stuff from their mum's basement as the T&Cs let them get away with. It is the same if you play many online games (mostly FPS games), the absolute racist filth spouted on there would make David Duke blush.
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Old 18.03.2019, 10:48
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... It is the same if you play many online games (mostly FPS games), the absolute racist filth spouted on there would make David Duke blush.


I should make a book of PSN comments I used to get.
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Old 18.03.2019, 10:52
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Certainly in the case of YouTube (I don't know much about Yah00 and its forums), it is mainly 14 year old boys being "edgy",
Seems to be quite a bit of this all over the internet. Plazzy right-wingers whose political lexicon extends no further than clumsy and distasteful comments. Never mind an irrational fear of Muslims, I think their biggest fear is being labelled a "snowflake".
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Old 18.03.2019, 11:14
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Certainly in the case of YouTube (I don't know much about Yah00 and its forums), it is mainly 14 year old boys being "edgy", writing as much abhorrent stuff from their mum's basement as the T&Cs let them get away with. It is the same if you play many online games (mostly FPS games), the absolute racist filth spouted on there would make David Duke blush.
There are two categories that produce most of the internet bullies - teenage boys and middle-aged men.
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Old 18.03.2019, 11:16
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There are two categories that produce most of the internet bullies - teenage boys and middle-aged men.
as a middle aged man with a teenage brain. i resent that


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Old 18.03.2019, 11:29
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as a middle aged man with a teenage brain. i resent that
As a middle aged woman, I haven't got a clue what FPS games and PSN comments are
Edit: Just read a link to escapistmagazine Is that it?
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Old 18.03.2019, 11:40
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Breaking news in Utrecht...
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There are multiple injuries after a shooting in the Dutch city of Utrecht, police have said.


The shooting began at 10.45am local time when a gunman opened fire in a tram on 24 Oktoberplain, a square outside the city centre.

According to news website AD, the gunman then fled the scene.
A number of trauma helicopters were sent to the area, police said, but it is unclear how many people have been taken to hospital.
https://news.sky.com/story/shooting-...uries-11669289
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:20
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Wow... just wow. Are you wearing your EF Mod hat while making such proclamations? MEFGA!

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This has nothing to do with gun laws and everything to do with White Supremacists. Gun laws don’t prevent mass killings, see the school shooting in Brazil for details (though apparently you’re not allowed to mention that as they’re still grieving or something).


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Bullshit.

Take your deluded, right wing views elsewhere. Be an arsehole somewhere else.
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:23
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Wow... just wow. Are you wearing your EF Mod hat while making such proclamations? MEFGA!

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This has nothing to do with gun laws and everything to do with White Supremacists. Gun laws don’t prevent mass killings, see the school shooting in Brazil for details (though apparently you’re not allowed to mention that as they’re still grieving or something).
Mods are still allowed opinions. It would only be problematic if 22Y thought that, then actually censored Loz's post because he disagreed with him.

MusicChick, for the most part, does the same on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:28
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Oh, please... I don't think I have ever seen aggression in any of MCs posts, let alone telling someone to go somewhere else.

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Mods are still allowed opinions. It would only be problematic if 22Y thought that, then actually censored Loz's post because he disagreed with him.

MusicChick, for the most part, does the same on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:35
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And well aware that Mods are allowed personal opinions. I have argued for this many times in the past. That is why I asked 22Y for clarification.

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Mods are still allowed opinions. It would only be problematic if 22Y thought that, then actually censored Loz's post because he disagreed with him.

MusicChick, for the most part, does the same on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:37
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Oh, please... I don't think I have ever seen aggression in any of MCs posts, let alone telling someone to go somewhere else.
No, random deletions are more her style.
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Old 18.03.2019, 12:40
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Mods are still allowed opinions. It would only be problematic if 22Y thought that, then actually censored Loz's post because he disagreed with him.

MusicChick, for the most part, does the same on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
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Oh, please... I don't think I have ever seen aggression in any of MCs posts, let alone telling someone to go somewhere else.
Mods, clearly, have their own opinions and whether that is expressed directly and sharply (I fail to see the "aggression" in 22Y's post ) by 22Y, or via passive-aggressive verbosity from MC, unless they ban members because they don't agree, then it's not a problem.

Of course if you just look at one snapshot and make a judgement on that, then it looks harsh but Loz is known as a bit of a reactionary on these kinds of threads and, along with some slightly off-colour comments, it kind of makes sense if you're a mod and you're not able to put them on ignore. It gets on your tits after a while.
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I'm not being "willingly ignorant" (though I would have used the term 'willfully ignorant' personally). Before yesterday, I was ignorant of the person in question. It was purely his words that struck a chord when they were quoted by someone that I do respect.

Today, you expect me to have full knowledge of everything about him and defend his reputation, but it took seconds... literally seconds... to find the court case specifically regarding the tweet in question (and others). Compared to some of the views you've put forward on this forum, his words are small fry. If anything, you (of all people) should read how the case was fought and won and applaud it. It was a very interesting and contentious case.
1) He of all people should understand the importance of freedom of speech.
2) You shouldn't complain about racism when you spout racist crap yourself.



3) Phone typo

But how could this happen? They have gun controls in the Netherlands
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Bullshit.

Take your deluded, right wing views elsewhere. Be an arsehole somewhere else.
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What if this sensitive snowflake takes offence? Anyone know of a good mod I can complain about this abuse to?
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Old 18.03.2019, 13:33
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But how could this happen? They have gun controls in the Netherlands
Probably best to wait for the details on the firearm used before "being an arsehole". Handguns are legal in the Netherlands for hunters and target shooters. The fact bystanders were able to count the amount of shots (3) suggests it wasn't anything automatic.
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Obviously. But you can influence how many "as many as possible" actually are. And just as obviously, easy access to semi or fully automatic guns increases that number. In the Kunming attack in 2014, for instance, each knife-weilding attacker killed 4 "only".
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Obviously. But you can influence how many "as many as possible" actually are. And just as obviously, easy access to semi or fully automatic guns increases that number. In the Kunming attack in 2014, for instance, each knife-weilding attacker killed 4 "only".
thermonuclear weapons don't kill people...
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But how could this happen? They have gun controls in the Netherlands


Quite a difference between "several people hurt" and 50 dead tho
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