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Old 21.06.2016, 14:05
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Unbelievable, really -- putting politics above common sense:

US Senate rejects terror list gun sale restrictions



Nothing short of pathetic.

I predict devastating Senate losses for the Republicans in the elections at the end of the year.
"I predict devastating Senate losses for the Republicans in the elections at the end of the year" Could well be!
The Trump supporters will be unhappy that the Grandees so far failed to 100% support Trump.

The Trump opponents will be unhappy that the Grandees so far failed to stop Trump.
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Old 21.06.2016, 14:42
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A short video from a meeting between Obama and pro-gun owners hosted by PBS:



There's another one on CNN:

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One baby step would be to pass a law that prohibits certain individuals (those mentally ill, on a no-fly list or under scrutiny, etc.) to purchase or own firearms. I don't see how one can win this argument using only common sense.
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Old 21.06.2016, 14:52
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This is the incredible response by guns advocates. Stop selling alcohol in bars and clubs- so all can bear arms responsibly. Beggars belief

What a Pratt (Larry Pratt on CNN) - couldn't copy the link, maybe someone else can do so.
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Old 22.06.2016, 12:26
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Here is a list with how the Senate voted on the gun control issue.

http://everytown.org/senate-vote-orlando/
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Old 22.06.2016, 14:21
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Here is a list with how the Senate voted on the gun control issue.

http://everytown.org/senate-vote-orlando/
I'm surprised at the number of Democrats who crossed to vote with the Republicans. Not many Reps went the other way.

Also disgusted that Rubio — senator for Florida, where Orlando is located — couldn't show understanding of and respect for the Orlando victims by voting 'yes'.
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Old 22.06.2016, 14:36
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I'm surprised at the number of Democrats who crossed to vote with the Republicans.
3?

And all from red-neck states?

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Old 22.06.2016, 14:41
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I am wondering whether if a gunman slaughtered a few politicians whether they'd be a little bit more motivated to change the law

Despite a decrease in public support
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Old 22.06.2016, 15:57
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I am wondering whether if a gunman slaughtered a few politicians whether they'd be a little bit more motivated to change the law

Despite a decrease in public support
You mean like Kennedy or Reagan?
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Old 22.06.2016, 16:00
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You mean like Kennedy or Reagan?
I mean like half a dozen sitting senators - or a dozen. And maybe a few lobbyists too.
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Old 23.06.2016, 09:55
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New twist to the Orlando tragedy
The alleged male lover of Orlando nightclub gunman Omar Mateen claims he did the shooting as “revenge” against Latino men.
The man claimed that Mateen was upset after having a sexual encounter with two Puerto Rican men after one of them revealed he was HIV positive.

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Old 23.06.2016, 10:26
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I mean like half a dozen sitting senators - or a dozen. And maybe a few lobbyists too.
No use, they'd simply increase the number of body guards and other security measures. And buy more guns ofc.
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Old 23.06.2016, 10:45
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I saw some very disturbing messages on Facebook from "Christians" who were actually happy with the killer!

Here is my take:

The guy was gay but got rejected constantly for being very weird. He got pissed, decided all those people are horrible for his suffering and went into a killing rampant while putting it on Daesh to freak people out.

Meanwhile, Daesh saw the news and was like: who the f*** is this guy? Who cares! He is one of us, one of us, one of us!!
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New twist to the Orlando tragedy
The alleged male lover of Orlando nightclub gunman Omar Mateen claims he did the shooting as “revenge” against Latino men.
The man claimed that Mateen was upset after having a sexual encounter with two Puerto Rican men after one of them revealed he was HIV positive.

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Wait, so I was right? The reason is not the exact same but quite not far.
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Old 23.06.2016, 11:51
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Gun-control protest sparks chaotic scenes in US Congress



There have been chaotic scenes in the lower house of the US Congress as Democrats staged a sit-in to demand a vote on gun control legislation.
The protest comes in the wake of the recent shootings in Orlando, the deadliest in modern US history.

Republican Speaker Paul Ryan tried to regain control but was met with chants of "no bill, no break!"
The Republicans switched off the House TV cameras but Democrats continued to feed live pictures via their phones.

The transmissions, broadcast by the C-Span network, technically breach the rules of the House of Representatives, but one Democrat congressman, Scott Peters, who provided a feed via the Periscope app, said the sit-in was breaking rules anyway.

The Democrats' protest follows the gun attack on 12 June, when a man claiming allegiance to the so-called Islamic State group, Omar Mateen, killed 49 people at the Pulse club in Orlando, Florida.

Compared to the pressing issue at hand, discussing technology may seem trivial. But the way in which the outside world got to witness the Democrats' sit-in will surely be considered a defining point for live online streaming.

With cameras shut off, US public service broadcaster C-Span resorted to running pictures being broadcast on Periscope, the live-streaming app owned by Twitter. The pictures were being filmed not by some social media intern or techy onlooker, but by Democrat Scott Peters on his smartphone.

Other feeds sprang up via Facebook Live, while CNN even managed to Apple's FaceTime to conduct a live interview with Democratic representative Steve Israel on the House floor (until he was politely asked to move into the corridor).

By Wednesday evening, some 168 House Democrats (out of 188) and 34 senators (out of 44) were on the floor of the House, some literally sitting on it.

As the protest reached its 10th hour, Mr Ryan tried to restore control with a recess.

He banged his gavel and tried to ignore the outbursts but amid Democrat shouts of "Shame! Shame!" he left the podium.
Democrats began singing "We shall overcome" and held up the names of gun attack victims.

The floor of the House became chaotic, with Republicans and Democrats shouting at each other.

Some Democratic representatives brought in sleeping bags, pillow and blankets, others doughnuts for colleagues.

Outside Congress, several hundred gun-control advocates gathered to voice support for the Democrats, shouting "hold the floor" and "do your job".

A motion for a brief adjournment was passed at about 01:30 local time (05:30 GMT) and the House then resumed at 02:30, with the majority Republicans voting through a number of bills.

They then called an adjournment until after 4 July, reminding lawmakers that transmitting images and video broke House rules.

But about two dozen Democrats remained on the floor, streaming speeches live. Representative Steve Israel said Democratic lawmakers had promised to stay through the night and would do so.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said: "Just because they cut and run in the dark of night, just because they have left doesn't mean we are taking no for an answer."

The BBC's Laura Bicker in Washington says the protest follows years of Democrat frustration at being unable to pass stricter gun control measures.
She says that although 100 bills have gone before Congress in the past five years and all have failed, this is an election year and Democrats are making it clear to the electorate that if they want change, they know which way to vote in November.

The sit-in is being led by congressman John Lewis, a veteran of the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

"What has this body done [to respond to the violence]?'' Mr Lewis asked, referring to several failed efforts in the past week to pass a gun control bill.
"Nothing. We have turned a deaf ear to the blood of innocents. We are blind to a crisis. Where is our courage? How many more mothers... and fathers need to shed tears of grief?"

President Barack Obama took to Twitter to thank Mr Lewis "for leading on gun violence where we need it most".

Republicans dismissed the protest as a publicity stunt.
Representative Kevin Cramer said: "I have no objection to them making fools of themselves on TV."

Paul Ryan told CNN he would not bring a gun-control vote in the House.
"They know that we will not bring a bill that takes away a person's constitutionally guaranteed rights without... due process," he said.

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Paul Ryan told CNN he would not bring a gun-control vote in the House.
"They know that we will not bring a bill that takes away a person's constitutionally guaranteed rights without... due process," he said.
Good to know. Ed Snowden et.al. probably got a good chuckle out of that one alone.
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Old 23.06.2016, 12:43
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Paul Ryan told CNN he would not bring a gun-control vote in the House.
"They know that we will not bring a bill that takes away a person's constitutionally guaranteed rights without... due process," he said.

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He's known liar:
"In a radio interview Ryan said that he had run a marathon in under three hours;[142] he later stated that he forgot his actual time and was just trying to state what he thought was a normal time.[143] His one official marathon time is recorded as slightly over four hours.[144][145]"

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Old 23.06.2016, 15:03
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He's known liar:
All politicians are known liars.

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Old 23.06.2016, 15:28
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All politicians are known liars.
Obviously - but I just found it rather amusing that he lied so badly.

Some politicians were/are very good liars. Does that make them better politicians?
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Old 23.06.2016, 15:31
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Obviously - but I just found it rather amusing that he lied so badly.

Some politicians were/are very good liars. Does that make them better politicians?
Good politicians tell lies that make you think you are as smart as they are.
Bad politicians tell lies that make it obvious that they think you are even dumber than they themselves are.
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Old 23.06.2016, 17:42
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Another shooting, this time at cinema in Germany. No causalities reported so far but many injuries, around 50

German cinema complex 'attacked by gunman'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36610068
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Mixed reports coming out, some saying he has hostages others saying he's been arrested.

A disgruntled Brexiter I'll bet.
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