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New York City
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/24...tate-building/

As many as 5 people have been shot in front of the Empire State Building in New York, a fire department spokesman said.
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it's 10 shot by now.
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:28
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My underpants! (sorry couldn't resist )

Back on topic... Whaaat??
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:33
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The only consolation in this shooting is that the b*st*rd killed himself afterwards.

Why couldn't he have just shot himself first and left the others to their own fate?
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:35
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EEk!! I'm going next week. Was trying to convice the hubby to come. No chance now.
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:45
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EEk!! I'm going next week. Was trying to convice the hubby to come. No chance now.
It's already happened and the perp is dead.
You'll be as safe (or unsafe) there as anywhere else in NY/US/the World (well, with some obvious exceptions).

It's all just a lottery.
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:48
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New York City
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/24...tate-building/

As many as 5 people have been shot in front of the Empire State Building in New York, a fire department spokesman said.
Just remember - it has nothing to do with guns, and he'd have found a way to do just as much damage if he couldn't have got a gun.

Yeah right.
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Just remember - it has nothing to do with guns, and he'd have found a way to do just as much damage if he couldn't have got a gun.

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Just remember - it has nothing to do with guns, and he'd have found a way to do just as much damage if he couldn't have got a gun.

Yeah right.
...and we are back to the subject of the thread us-gun-control-laws
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Old 24.08.2012, 17:57
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...and we are back to the subject of the thread us-gun-control-laws
What gun-control laws?

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Just remember - it has nothing to do with guns, and he'd have found a way to do just as much damage if he couldn't have got a gun.

Yeah right.
In fact handguns are totally banned in New York city. So banning guns works?

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Old 24.08.2012, 18:17
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In fact handguns are totally banned in New York city. So banning guns works?

Yeah right.
Sorry should have said...."Of all the states that do issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation". Not quite a total ban but pretty strict.
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Old 24.08.2012, 18:24
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Sorry should have said...."Of all the states that do issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation". Not quite a total ban but pretty strict.
not a total ban at all and it is easy enough to get a gun somewhere else and bring it in the city- not to mention getting a gun illegally is not all that difficult either.
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Old 24.08.2012, 18:33
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In fact handguns are totally banned in New York city. So banning guns works?

Yeah right.
and yes stricter gun control laws certainly do work. new york city has far less fire-arm related deaths than other cities in the u.s much smaller and with less strict gun control laws.

there is less of a gun culture in nyc than in other u.s cities though it is pretty obvious that gun violence is increasing through out the country.

this mornings shootings make me really sad. i went to school not very far from the esb and have my best friend working not less than a block away.

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Old 24.08.2012, 19:05
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and another shooting in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,0,49779.story



It is time to regulate who can have a gun in my opinion. all this screaming about gun control....: you fullfill the qualifications you can still have your gun.....whats so hard about that
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Old 24.08.2012, 19:15
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wah. this is so sad especially after seeing gun crimes change so drastically from when i was younger- i was getting optimistic.

as for gun control- ot, but numbers do show that stricter laws = less gun violence. of course you can still get guns, but the ease of what you can get and where changes so much.

i grew up with hunters in my family and i grew up knowing not to go on certain blocks because of the threat of the use of human shields so i've had to see and hear both sides.

in my opinion, there is no need for a gun at all- if you want to kill an animal, be a big wo/man and use your hands, if you can't you don't have a right.

but that's waaaay off topic, sorry
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and another shooting in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,0,49779.story



It is time to regulate who can have a gun in my opinion. all this screaming about gun control....: you fullfill the qualifications you can still have your gun.....whats so hard about that
Because people can "snap" at any time. They don't need guns...period! Qualifying for a gun means nothing in the US. Any psycho can falsify information, but unfortunately it is too late now. The US must pay its dues...
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and another shooting in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,0,49779.story



It is time to regulate who can have a gun in my opinion. all this screaming about gun control....: you fullfill the qualifications you can still have your gun.....whats so hard about that
Don't know what planet you stepped off of but in my state you have to register with the sheriff, have a background check, take a safty gun course and then after that a three day waiting period before you can buy the gun you want... And since my state is a great hunting state taking guns will only cause bigger problems with regulating the wildlife, deer and so on.. Remember you can take guns from the people but the criminals will always have guns.
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Don't know what planet you stepped off of but in my state you have to register with the sheriff, have a background check, take a safty gun course and then after that a three day waiting period before you can buy the gun you want... And since my state is a great hunting state taking guns will only cause bigger problems with regulating the wildlife, deer and so on.. Remember you can take guns from the people but the criminals will always have guns.
As for what planet I stepped of .....well you know there is more to the world than just the USA right .....

Back to your point :
true but I am talking EU regulations that I know of (Belgium)
you have to register, go 12x a year to the shooting range , be a member of a shooting club, pass the exam and mental test register your ammunition, and you can not fire in public (even in your back yard) guns are solely for recreation and in the rare case for protection.
hunting licenses are again another thing where you have to go through several courses etc to 1. know what you are shooting, when and where to shoot it etc, There is a reason why they had to make shooting out of your car for game illegal now isn't there... And I do not think that shooting your gun around friends at a party qualifies as allowable but that my opinion

I' m all for guns and for people to have them but from my time in MN (rather hillbilly like conditions) I think it would be great to have some more control.

Less guns there are less the criminals can get their hands on and the more they are caught the more can be destroyed.

just my 2 cents
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Sorry should have said...."Of all the states that do issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation". Not quite a total ban but pretty strict.
This is absolutely spot on!

When I lived in NY and worked in the Federal court system (decades ago), I was fingerprinted and had to undergo a VERY thorough background check by the FBI that took some months to be completed. I eventually received governmental security clearance at the Federal level, and I was allowed to apply for a firearm license, but there was further scrutiny. I passed muster and obtained a license to carry a small firearm, which I did for several years. The only occasion(s) on which I ever fired that gun was at bi-yearly target practice at the police range -- thankfully! I was also happy to give it up in the end because, somehow, having it became a burden.
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