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Yet you do the very same thing. You and your cronies employ that tactic all the time, do you not? With the age-old term of "hysteria" et al. And you are one of the first to become remarkably aggressive when nay said. Or is it "having strong opinions " when you do it?
You'll have to point out these aggressive attacks I'm making. I don't have cronies, and I'm relatively frugal with the thanks, and rarely groan.
If said cronies are making attacks, that's nothing to do with me, is it?

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I at least live in the UK and understand very well what is happening and how a great of people feel. Have you at least conversed recently at length with real folk who live there?
Yes I have, they also don't care about DC. The shit show is employment.
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In this case the media isn't pushing anything. Social media, however, is aflame.
HaHa, social media.

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And it is my opinion that you don't have a clue.
I gathered that.
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Old 26.05.2020, 15:31
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So much so that a prominent Brexiteer Gina Miller now wants Dominic Cummings done with dangerous driving!

This is just about getting rid of him, plain and simple.

https://twitter.com/thatginamiller/s...76520503836673
Confirming your usual accurate grasp of important details, Gina Miller is a prominent anti-Brexiteer
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This has zero to do with Brexit and, as you full well know, these are not normal times when people are free to come and go as they please. There are people in UK who were in a far worse situation and with far less resources, heartbroken because they followed the instructions of DC's boss and stayed at home while their loved ones died.
Try telling them that what DC did is not a slap in the face to not only them but those working on the front line trying to save the lives of people DC may have spread the virus to without regard because! I think you will find that they do give a shite!
You assume that people who are appalled by his behaviour are a vocal minority. Think for a minute while you rush to come to the defence of this worthless and cowardly man that perhaps you, sitting safe in Zurich, are part of the vocal minority using the dreaded Brexit to justify any position. The majority living in UK very likely do care a great deal about this, whatever their political beliefs and stance on Brexit
There's a lot of emotive language in there.
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Or he has the goods on Bojo
It does seem to be a bit of wild one to be nailed to the cross for.
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Perhaps they're biding their moment, there's still A LOT of bad news to come out over their handling of the Coronavirus that'll need burying at some point.

Also, why wasn't there the uproar when other politicians like Stephen Kinnock or Tahir Ali broke the lockdown? My guess is because Dominic Cummings is the boogie man living rent free inside the Remainer's, the Media (and RufusB, Odile and Mr Dog's) head!
Nah. I'm Northern, too tight not to charge rent. Besides my head is full of far more interesting stuff than that. Also, dragons. Nice try though.

I imagine those other two didn't smugly insult every parent in the land in one fell swoop or go so spectacularly against the rules (or drive whilst having an admitted concern about eyesight).

No. Kinnock was a pillock and sat outside his parents house for a bit.
Ali was attending funerals.

Both well intentioned but bloody stupid. Cummings' cumulative behaviour is in a different league entirely.
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You'll have to point out these aggressive attacks I'm making. I don't have cronies, and I'm relatively frugal with the thanks, and rarely groan.
If said cronies are making attacks, that's nothing to do with me, is it?

Yes I have, they also don't care about DC. The shit show is employment.

HaHa, social media.


I gathered that.
I didn't say attack, I said aggressive language. Stalkers then.

Good for them. Many many others do. Agreed about employment.

Doesn't make it any less true about the depth of feeling on social media.
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Old 26.05.2020, 15:54
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Perhaps they're biding their moment, there's still A LOT of bad news to come out over their handling of the Coronavirus that'll need burying at some point.

Also, why wasn't there the uproar when other politicians like Stephen Kinnock or Tahir Ali broke the lockdown? My guess is because Dominic Cummings is the boogie man living rent free inside the Remainer's, the Media (and RufusB, Odile and Mr Dog's) head!
Did Stephen Kinnock and/or Tahir Ali abandon the opposition and join the Government? I missed that.
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There's a lot of emotive language in there.
A massive lot of emotion in the British people, left, centre, right - only far right is still supporting him. Ooops, no - even Farage has been slating him!

Are you denying Johnson's ratings have gone down 20% in a couple of days.
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So much so that a prominent Remainer Gina Miller now wants Dominic Cummings done with dangerous driving!

This is just about getting rid of him, plain and simple.

https://twitter.com/thatginamiller/s...76520503836673
So in his own words he drove nearly 300 miles and arrived at roughly midnight and then woke the next morning "in pain and clearly had COVID symptoms, including a bad headache and a serious fever". Is it too much of a logical assumption for you to assume that he could not have been in peak condition when driving and thus potentially put the lives of his wife and child at risk as well as other road users, potentially front line workers?

In the words of his wife "Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way." Yet he gets in the car again with wife and child as passengers, a danger not only to them but other road users

And then that 30 mile EACH WAY trip with family because as he says "My wife was very worried, particularly as my eyesight seemed to have been affected by the disease." Is it too much of a stretch for you to consider that somebody whose vision has been affected, perhaps and just maybe should not be behind a wheel. And I mean anybody whatever their political or other beliefs or profession

Three admitted incidences when any rational person might question whether this man was fit and capable of being behind a wheel. Yes, he should be investigated not because of bloody Brexit but because he could have caused an accident, been incapable of finishing the journey and endangering and infecting rescue services who he would have called for help. Road accidents and Covid don't discriminate between Remainers and Brexiteers you fool
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So in his own words he drove nearly 300 miles and arrived at roughly midnight and then woke the next morning "in pain and clearly had COVID symptoms, including a bad headache and a serious fever". Is it too much of a logical assumption for you to assume that he could not have been in peak condition when driving and thus potentially put the lives of his wife and child at risk as well as other road users, potentially front line workers?

In the words of his wife "Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way." Yet he gets in the car again with wife and child as passengers, a danger not only to them but other road users

And then that 30 mile EACH WAY trip with family because as he says "My wife was very worried, particularly as my eyesight seemed to have been affected by the disease." Is it too much of a stretch for you to consider that somebody whose vision has been affected, perhaps and just maybe should not be behind a wheel. And I mean anybody whatever their political or other beliefs or profession

Three admitted incidences when any rational person might question whether this man was fit and capable of being behind a wheel. Yes, he should be investigated not because of bloody Brexit but because he could have caused an accident, been incapable of finishing the journey and endangering and infecting rescue services who he would have called for help. Road accidents and Covid don't discriminate between Remainers and Brexiteers you fool
You're over evaluating everything. Conspiracy theorist Carole Cadwalladr does the same. You loathe the man, fair enough, but it's all starting to sound a little unhinged.

What happened to the UK? The lockdown has brought out the worse in people, from snitching on neighbours for breaking lockdown in a similar fashion to the informants in Vichy France, to shaming people for not turning out to praise the NHS on a Thursday night. Tribalism, faux outrage, double standards, hypocrisy, harassment and a lying media is destroying the country!
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You're over evaluating everything. Conspiracy theorist Carole Cadwalladr does the same. You loathe the man, fair enough, but it's all starting to sound a little unhinged.

Mr Dog is probably just quoting from here:


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52784290


Which is a summary of what Cummings has done, and that according to his own statement. So if that is unhinged??
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Is Barnard Castle South of Durham on way back to London? Or West - adding 1 hour to a very long 5 hour journey?

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I am amazed by the fuss about this the fine is £60, reduced to £30 if paid in 2 weeks, wow big deal.

A huge no of usually intelligent people seem to have lost all perspective from staying at home for a couple of months.
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Is Barnard Castle South of Durham on way back to London? Or East - adding 1 hours to a 5 hour journey?

Hmm he did the jaunt on 12th and back in London on 14th. I thought the castle trip was done on a separate day (very coincidentally the wife's birthday)
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I am amazed by the fuss about this the fine is £60, reduced to £30 if paid in 2 weeks, wow big deal.

A huge no of usually intelligent people seem to have lost all perspective from staying at home for a couple of months.

Anyone who can see this- has totally lost the plot for sure- and totally gone Dave Allen on the finger on the pulse. You just cannot imagine what people have been going through, and the sacrifices they made. This has NOTHING to do about the fine- how extremely uncouth and inhumane to even think so.
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Anyone who can see this- has totally lost the plot for sure- and totally gone Dave Allen on the finger on the pulse. You just cannot imagine what people have been going through, and the sacrifices they made. This has NOTHING to do about the fine- how extremely uncouth and inhumane to even think so.
Quite, lockdown will go down in history as being a huge mistake. It's legality in the UK is not even clear, anyway people like to be told what to do, then they don't have to think for themselves
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Again, you are totally losing the plot here. If you believe that lock down instructions (not advice) were wrong (and many of us would be prepared to debate this) ... then since Cummings was very much part of that decision, the memes and said instructions - then it makes him, even much more guilty. And 'the people', left, centre, right, south and north and everywhere in between- have seen this for what it is- and they feel cheated and angry- probably thos who voted for Johnson even more on this occasion, as they feek their trust has been betrayed and they have been gullible.

Many guess that there is an awful more to it too (his sister getting the contract for Track ap on same day, GSK... and more) ...

What is so different now- is that it is not just those 'Liberal Lefties', the pro EU, anti Brexit and anti Johnson brigade who are so angry and feel betrayed, those who voted Tory as a protest can now see what is happening, not just with Covid but with Agricuture, NI, the NHS and so much more- and the same for those I know who are traditional Tories and have always been, for generations- and who are now disgusted and are even beginning to admire Keir Starmer's calm, experienced, determined performance.
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Quite, lockdown will go down in history as being a huge mistake. It's legality in the UK is not even clear, anyway people like to be told what to do, then they don't have to think for themselves
Exactly, he shouldn’t be fired for breaching the rules, rather for having a hand in making them in the first place!
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Reminds me of Rees-Mogg- who blamed Grenfell victims for obeying advice- it was their fault if their burnt and suffocated to death. The entitlement and arrogance of the spivs and the gold spoon old boys' network is beyond contempt and sick.

Jonathan Pie says it better than I ever could. Warning- he swears a lot- fine by me on this occasion

https://youtu.be/tDnGQemzf2s

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Mr Dog is probably just quoting from here:


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52784290


Which is a summary of what Cummings has done, and that according to his own statement. So if that is unhinged??
The point is that once the original accusations have fallen completely flat so the goal posts have been moved to look for ANYTHING which will result in Mr Cummings losing his job. This is otherwise known as a witch hunt.

Every lie that the press have told us on this story: That he returned to Durham twice, that he had physical contact with family members, that the police warned Mr Cummings about lockdown guidelines. All of it not true, so now people are trying to analyse whether or not he was fit to drive. Bonkers!
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