Boris Johnson for PM? - Page 5

k_and_e · #81 23.07.2019, 17:10

	Quote:	Squeeeez
	What there is a single market? do they have LPs as well?

Come on! It's about dating.

#82 23.07.2019, 17:12

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	Is it really going to be any worse that what we've had in the recent past or what may have been. What the guy does in his private life is his business, what he does for the UK is every bodies business and whilst he may not be the most orthodox of candidates, i do think he will do his maximum to get things done.

He's entirely self-serving and dangerous.. Another soliipsistic egotist with ludicrous hair..

#83 23.07.2019, 17:13

	Quote:	Treverus
	Um, no? Von der Leyen only got the job because Macron pulled all strings imaginable to prevent Weber. Weber would have been a weak leader that could have been pushed over… von der Leyen has not just the full support from Germany and France, but even the Eastern countries. Her single biggest topic is not Brexit, but to keep the EU together despite all the differences. Guess what that means for her openess to renegotiate Brexit... ;-)

Well if she manages her job of keeping the EU together as well as she managed Germany’s defence we can look forward to the end of the EU by Christmas.

And the “full support of Germany, France and the Eastern countries” is pushing it a little, she limped home in the EU Parliament vote, in what was a one horse race.

amogles · #84 23.07.2019, 17:20

	Quote:	Loz1983
	And the “full support of Germany, France and the Eastern countries” is pushing it a little, she limped home in the EU Parliament vote, in what was a one horse race.

I think what he means to say is that she was marginally more palatable than the other guy.

Of course the EE countries will have attached their demands and conditions to supporting her. So bring on the popcorn.

By officially stating that her aim is to bully other countries so they don't think about leaving keep the rest of EU intact, she is admitting that the intactness of roEU is not a forgone conclusion. So actually good news.

Blueangel · #85 23.07.2019, 17:28

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Funny how the people that are triggered by Boris’ election as head of the Conservative party and thus de facto PM are the very same ones that were banging on about Parliament Sovereignty on the result of Brexit. Thems the rules, sweetheart.

Hmmm...

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	Brown's looking for a Scottish ally By Boris Johnson12:01AM BST 21 Jun 2007 It's the arrogance. It's the contempt. That's what gets me. It's Gordon Brown's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It's at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.... ...The British public sucked its teeth, squinted at him closely, sighed and, with extreme reluctance, decided to elect him Prime Minister for another five years. Let me repeat that. They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM.... ...The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. ... ...We know that there is not a cat's chance in hell of a referendum on the new EU treaty, in spite of the further transfers of sovereignty involved. Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let's have an election without delay.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...tish-ally.html

Based upon Johnson's triggered reaction to the Blair-Brown hand over, I assume he will be seeking a GE at the earliest possible opportunity.

#86 23.07.2019, 17:41

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Hmmm... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...tish-ally.html Based upon Johnson's triggered reaction to the Blair-Brown hand over, I assume he will be seeking a GE at the earliest possible opportunity.

Not until he’s delivered Brexit he won’t. Deliver Brexit and he’ll win by a landslide. Fail and he’ll be gone by Christmas.

grumpygrapefruit · #87 23.07.2019, 17:51

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Not until he’s delivered Brexit he won’t. Deliver Brexit and he’ll win by a landslide. Fail and he’ll be gone by Christmas.

So he'll be gone by Christmas then

#88 23.07.2019, 17:52

	Quote:	Blueangel
	British people aren't great 'joiners', and I only know about a dozen people who are paid up members of a political party. Even so, new members only receive their voting rights after 3 mths of them joining the party, and the current PM only announced her resignation on 24th May.

All true, but who still believed in let's say March that she would make it til the end of the year?

And I think all European country's show the same, hardly anybody is actually a member of a political party.

#89 23.07.2019, 17:55

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	So he'll be gone by Christmas then

No, I truly believe he'll be willing to leave without a great deal. Leaving the EU comes with higher self-control/independy (even if it would only be in feeling such) and he like many others is willing to pay a price for that. And it has to be seen on the long run who would be the economical victor of a no deal Brexit, short term EU probably, long term I would not be surprised by England being able to boost the economy more than they could with their hands tied by the EU.

grumpygrapefruit · #90 23.07.2019, 18:09

	Quote:
	No, I truly believe he'll be willing to leave without a great deal. Leaving the EU comes with higher self-control/independy (even if it would only be in feeling such) and he like many others is willing to pay a price for that. And it has to be seen on the long run who would be the economical victor of a no deal Brexit, short term EU probably, long term I would not be surprised by England being able to boost the economy more than they could with their hands tied by the EU.

But will Parliament allow that? I very much doubt it.

#91 23.07.2019, 18:38

	Quote:	grumpygrapefruit
	But will Parliament allow that? I very much doubt it.

I guess a lot depends whether the EU decide if enough progress has ben made that they offer an additional extension.

I’m not totally convinced the EU sees Boris as progress

#92 23.07.2019, 18:45

YouGov Poll today.

The news that Johnson has become PM tended to elicit a negative reaction from Britons. Approaching half (47%) told us they were either dismayed or disappointed at the outcome, compared to 28% who said they either pleased or delighted. Another 17% confessed to not minding one way or the other.

So, who will Boris blame first when it all goes tits up?

dandi · #93 23.07.2019, 19:04

	Quote:	Swisstree
	YouGov Poll today. The news that Johnson has become PM tended to elicit a negative reaction from Britons. Approaching half (47%) told us they were either dismayed or disappointed at the outcome, compared to 28% who said they either pleased or delighted. Another 17% confessed to not minding one way or the other. So, who will Boris blame first when it all goes tits up?

The parliament of course - funny how close the poll is to the parliament breakdown ATM. He will try to put as much pressure on MPs it as possible in the coming weeks, I expect the mud slings are being loaded as we speak...

Fish Paste · #94 23.07.2019, 19:55

C'mon Bozzer!

Show us what you're made of!

3 months to go, plenty of time to pull the rabbit out of the hat.

slammer · #95 23.07.2019, 20:30

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	He's entirely self-serving and dangerous.. Another soliipsistic egotist with ludicrous hair..

"Solipsistic" I so had to google that.

#96 23.07.2019, 21:49

	Quote:	Swisstree
	YouGov Poll today. The news that Johnson has become PM tended to elicit a negative reaction from Britons. Approaching half (47%) told us they were either dismayed or disappointed at the outcome, compared to 28% who said they either pleased or delighted. Another 17% confessed to not minding one way or the other. So, who will Boris blame first when it all goes tits up?

I'm missing 8% of the people :P

#97 23.07.2019, 21:56

	Quote:
	I'm missing 8% of the people :P

They must've got lost with all the excitement and furore. I suspect they're down the pub drowning their sorrows.

MusicChick · #98 23.07.2019, 23:58

	Quote:	amogles
	I think what he means to say is that she was marginally more palatable than the other guy. Of course the EE countries will have attached their demands and conditions to supporting her. So bring on the popcorn. By officially stating that her aim is to bully other countries so they don't think about leaving keep the rest of EU intact, she is admitting that the intactness of roEU is not a forgone conclusion. So actually good news.

Good news?

If anyone knew how EEs report about her expertise and competences. Why do they mention a gender hire?

McTAVGE · #99 24.07.2019, 00:23

Brexit deadline by October 31st...a Halloween Horror we won't forget in a hurry!

#**100** 24.07.2019, 00:33

	Quote:	mctavge
	brexit deadline by october 31st...a halloween horror we won't forget in a hurry!

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