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Old 13.11.2019, 11:01
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Holy god, this is excruciating...

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Old 24.05.2020, 19:36
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Johnson has sunk to new lows today. Defending the indefensible and insulting the nation in one clean move.

He needs to go. And take Cummings with him.
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Old 24.05.2020, 19:43
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He needs to go. And take Cummings with him.
I think people who voted conservative are very happy with him, he has a huge following.

The Tory haters are still making a noise, sad they still do not accept democracy, it was the same nonsense with BREXIT & everybody had changed their minds if you believed the remainers
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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

As far as I understand this, Cummings knowingly disregarded the rules and PM defended that? Tous les hommes sont egaux....
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Maybe you need to keep those ears closer to the ground. Many in the Cabinet are turning, and certainly many MPs. And people, even Tories and staunch Brexiters- see that they have been lied to. Lowering farming standards to USA level, which will kill UK farming, border checks with NI, heading for No Deal that will cost 100s of 1000s of jobs just when Covid is killing the rest, and now his handling of Covid, and today trying to excuse the inexcusable- a smack in the teeth of the 10s of 1000s who have made huge sacrifices, obeyed the clear instructions given by the Government, unable to see dying husbands and wives, fathers and mothers and children even. Even those from Tunbridge are totally disgusted.

Putting our financial sector in such a precarious condition - FS which brings huge revenues, at a time we will really need them to help with Covid consequences. I have close relatives in the financial sector, some at such a VERY high level- and they are VERY concerned. Sending kids back to school when schools just cannot adapt to make it safe due to big class sizes and poor accomodation and lack of space, putting ourselves at risk as we won't be part of the criminal and terrorist share network, cutting immigration from EU and finding ourselves without fruit pickers or agricultural workers, and with even less carers, nurses and doctors - and at the same time opening immigration to rest of the world (now I personally don't mind this- but I am sure this is NOT what Farage and supporters had in mind) ... the list is endless. And people know now- not the remainers, they knew a long time ago - but those who were lied to massively by Johnson, Gove, the ERG and co.

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I think people who voted conservative are very happy with him, he has a huge following.

The Tory haters are still making a noise, sad they still do not accept democracy, it was the same nonsense with BREXIT & everybody had changed their minds if you believed the remainers
Not after today he hasn't. You maybe should catch the news. He has made a mockery of any sacrifice people have made in the last ten weeks. Folk have missed the births of children, deaths of parents, funerals, weddings, graduations, significant life events and has just shat all over everything and is atttempting to gaslight the nation.

It's not actually about politics but about a clear humanity void.
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Old 24.05.2020, 20:11
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Have you seen the response on the official Civil Servants' Twitter ''Arrogant and offensive. Can you imagine having to work with these truth twisters'' boom boom!

And another factor is the hugely impressive performance by Keir Starmer - running rings around bungling Johnson. Well prepared, with all the facts to hand, calm, poised, collected, experienced and persistent. He will calmly ask again, backing his questions with fact, and will not take no or nonsense as an answer. He totally out-classes Johnson - and huge numbers of Tories are noticing. And they know that their Emperor has NO clothes on and is being outplayed time after time. Klar- absolutely.

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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

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Johnson has sunk to new lows today. Defending the indefensible and insulting the nation in one clean move.

He needs to go. And take Cummings with him.

It's just the media trying to force Boris's hand/dictate policy.

No one is outraged, except Peston etc.
I'm glad Bojo has stood behind his man. If he has broken any laws then he should be fined and that's it. All this calling for his head is again just bitching over Brexit and BoJo getting the top job.


At least Boris appears human, and people like that.
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It's just the media trying to force Boris's hand/dictate policy.

No one is outraged, except Peston etc.
I'm glad Bojo has stood behind his man. If he has broken any laws then he should be fined and that's it. All this calling for his head is again just bitching over Brexit and BoJo getting the top job.


At least Boris appears human, and people like that.
Everyone is outraged. Get a grip. You clearly haven't seen any UK news today.


Edit: everyone but Mikers and probably quite a few other folk who don't give a fork. But other than that...

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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

Fatmanfilms - not at all related to Tory haters or Brexit.

Today's briefing and blagging by the PM was an insult to all who took their part seriously in the UK lockdown.

When you have this being put out you know somethings very amiss:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlton.../#6a7ba4933154
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Old 24.05.2020, 21:42
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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

Remember today 24th May when the UK joined the US in the gutter. Partisanism has taken full control of the country and has resulted in normal people becoming hysterical. Just imagine in a time when the economy lies in tatters, 36,000 people are dead, the country continues to stay in lockdown contrary to all scientific evidence saying otherwise, just imagine that despite ALL THIS, that people are getting hysterical because a government advisor (not even an MP) took a trip to Durham.

Brexit provided an opportunity, an opportunity that will never be realised as partisanism tears the country apart. If you’re religious, then pray for them. They’re going to need it!
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I do believe it is the first time I have agreed with you. Yes, today I believe, is the final straw and the turning point.
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I think people who voted conservative are very happy with him, he has a huge following.

The Tory haters are still making a noise, sad they still do not accept democracy, it was the same nonsense with BREXIT & everybody had changed their minds if you believed the remainers
It's ludicrous, they can't win in Parliament since the election and they can't win fairly so have been reduced to to smears and media witch hunts. They're all basically still smarting from Cummings wins. They need to watch themselves as there's a certain type of folks who will end up like the miners, in the decades to come they'll still be fighting yesterday's lost battles!
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If you want your finger on the pulse- watch the news and the Press today- even the tabloïds- the Daily Mail's front page says it all.
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Re: Boris Johnson for PM?

My humble opinion is this.....leave aside everything about Brexit and Tories, and think did this person do the right thing? I would suggest not, it was not needed to travel nearly 300 miles whilst risking infecting others, especially considering they are not denying that he went for a walk in the woods. Simply he should have stayed at home, he probably should have had the decency and resigned avoiding undermining the govt and the critical health message at the time. This could all be straightened out if Johnson gave a detailed account of DC's movements.
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Odile?

With the number of turning points you have predicted over the years we must be dizzy from going around in circles.

Hey, wait ...
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Well, when the Daily Heil and the Mirror turn, big time - and when many Tory cabinet members and MPs turn, and the Bishops, and so many others- many of them staunch Tories and Brexiters- Piers Morgan, Farage and Ferrari too -you know the time has come...

And it has awakened all sorts of questions that had been sort of buried, the Russian Report that should have come out in October, the betrayal of Northern Ireland and the farming industry- and so much more.

Watch this space ... I am not the only one who thinks excusing with the absolutely totally inexcusable - will be the trigger. You dont have to believe me ... just watch.
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Well, when the Daily Heil and the Mirror turn, big time - and when many Tory cabinet members and MPs turn, and the Bishops, and so many others- many of them staunch Tories and Brexiters- Piers Morgan, Farage and Ferrari too -you know the time has come...

And it has awakened all sorts of questions that had been sort of buried, the Russian Report that should have come out in October, the betrayal of Northern Ireland and the farming industry- and so much more.

Watch this space ... I am not the only one who thinks excusing with the absolutely totally inexcusable - will be the trigger. You dont have to believe me ... just watch.
Just watch it be chip wrappers in a couple of days time. Unless something new comes to light then the story's over, in spite of the hysterics.
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just watch

most of our family are Tories, and have been forever, for generations. Phone calls yesterday clearly showed that they are appalled and disgusted- and it has brought to the surface all the other stuff I mentionned above. Not arguing with you - no time or energy for that.

Watch ...
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