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2,977 innocent people lost their lives. you are always free to turn the channel or flip the page if you don't like the way it is being covered in the media of your choosing.
you are really crazy as your nick says or do you just pretend???

Did you read THE ENTIRE POST? Did I say I didn't like the media coverage??? Smart guy!If you would have read and comprehend the entire post you could have realized it was NOT about liking or not, it was about the message/ idea/effect it conveys!!!
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you are really crazy as your nick says or do you just pretend???

Did you read THE ENTIRE POST? Did I say I didn't like the media coverage??? Smart guy!If you would have read and comprehend the entire post you could have realized it was NOT about liking or not, it was about the message/ idea/effect it conveys!!!
calling the listener or reader "stupid" is the last bastion of every poor communicator.
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Old 12.09.2012, 14:49
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we have Holocaust memorials and museums worldwide dedicated to the memory of the 6MM+ Jews killed by the Nazis, and nary a mention or statue to remember the 8MM+ gypsies, Poles and others killed by the Nazis,
Godwin, is that you?
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:01
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I am not sure the message conveyed is really that the attack achieved nothing
Achieved nothing?

On the contrary, it achieved more than they could ever have dreamed of!

The Patriot Act, increased paranoia at airports, etc., general screwing over of the basic rights given by the US constitution, and all freely accepted by the sheeple that are the majority of US citizens!

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Godwin, is that you?
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:10
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@evianers & @kiwiguy08 Say your opinion or bugger off.

Anyway when opening the thread I was prepared for the blind-folded patriotic idi@ts who don't read the entire post and try to comprehend the idea expressed therein...
The aggressive tone of your replies do you no favours at all. A more friendly approach would get you much further!
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:15
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The aggressive tone of your replies do you no favours at all.
With the risk of this issue looking childish blame and shame: that comment was a reaction. The red-reppers who obviously did not even read/ understood the entire post know what I refer to.

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A more friendly approach would get you much further!
Who said I want to get anywhere

But how about returning to the subject
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:19
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you are really crazy as your nick says or do you just pretend???

Did you read THE ENTIRE POST? Did I say I didn't like the media coverage??? Smart guy!If you would have read and comprehend the entire post you could have realized it was NOT about liking or not, it was about the message/ idea/effect it conveys!!!
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calling the listener or reader "stupid" is the last bastion of every poor communicator.
Please assist. I see "Smart guy" in there but where is the part about being "stupid" ?

However, I agree with the generel "calm down EPMike" suggestion.

I see your point but no reason to offend people.
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:30
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Achieved nothing?

On the contrary, it achieved more than they could ever have dreamed of!

The Patriot Act, increased paranoia at airports, etc., general screwing over of the basic rights given by the US constitution, and all freely accepted by the sheeple that are the majority of US citizens!

Tom
Reviewing what "they" achieved as listed above by st2lemans, I think it is not far fetched to question WHO ARE "THEY".
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:31
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IMHO: the 9/11 attacks should have never been covered by any media, no portraits of victims shown on tv, no casualty numbers, nothing.
I see your point as doing all the "in memory of 9/11" stuff serves more than the purpose of remembering the love ones who died on this for many tratic day.

It is without a doubt also a tool to keep the war on terror going.

On a quite different topic I have the same opinion about media coverage.

At (all) the shootings at high schools (and other public places) where some punk goes berserk and shoots several innocent people before he kills himself or get shot by the police I support a ban against publishing the killers identity.

If some sad person have decided to end his miserable life by committing suicide he/she can either do it in private and die as a nobody or he can start shooting in public and die as a world famous serial killer......with his face and name in every newspaper and on all TV stations all over the western world.

Why support this possibility?
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:32
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I see your point but no reason to offend people.
Very well put.

I also agree with your general point but the larger issue is simply that many of our media providers simply provide what the public watches. If the public were so much more interested in, for example, conservation issues in Alaska, then CNN et al would run that instead.
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:44
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Very well put.

I also agree with your general point but the larger issue is simply that many of our media providers simply provide what the public watches. If the public were so much more interested in, for example, conservation issues in Alaska, then CNN et al would run that instead.
While that is true, keep in mind that the great media enterprises have a huge effect on demand.

See for example the Ipad. A few years ago nobody knew they want one. However Apple was smart enough to create a hype (using market presence and good marketing) so that by now the ipad became what people want.

Creating demand is quite an established strategy and some do it very well, actually so well that consumers believe that what is sold to them is what they always wanted. Something like Ben Linus form Lost.
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Old 12.09.2012, 15:52
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Re: 9/11 tragedy in world media

The main reason why something like 9/11 feels like it is covered so much more than other events is that it has a specific date to commemorate and all the coverage happens in a short period every year. A war or other event that spans years is not so concentrated in its coverage or so easy a platform for media to focus on...and not many of them have the same amount of video footage that 9/11 has and is critical to the creation of so many documentaries. The magnitude of the loss and the invasion on home soil for one of the strongest military countries in the world holds interest for more than just those in the country it happened in.

Besides, as a strong believer that it is important to continue to talk about and share about things that have happened in the past so they will hopefully never be allowed to happen again, I actually wish there were more historical events that received the same coverage. The media blitz is simply the new manner in which this can be done when they have the material to do so.
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Old 12.09.2012, 16:00
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Re: 9/11 tragedy in world media

Whether you agree with them or not, the policy and military reactions to 9/11 have had (and will continue to have) global implications. That is part of why the anniversary gets a lot of coverage. Over time, the coverage will be less and less. Eleven years is still somewhat fresh, particularly since the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are not resolved.

I think the media repeats 9/11 stories over and over because they are so different from anything that had come before. It is "normal" for people to die in ethnic conflicts or natural disasters. It is not "normal" for someone to fly a jumbo jet into an office building with the express purpose of killing as many people as possible.

The old school thought on plane hijacking was that the hijackers would not do anything to kill themselves. The 9/11 hijackers didn't follow that plan. It was also a deliberate attack on civilians rather than a military target. The people on those planes, in the towers, and even largely in the Pentagon were average joe people. They weren't armed government or rebel fighters.

I disagree that there never should have been any coverage, but I think a lot of the coverage has been overblown. If you look at the ratings that come from the TV specials, etc. though it is clear that people want to watch. Why? My guess is it's like the proverbial car wreck. Human nature is to slow down and see what happened in the other lane, at least for a moment.

A teacher friend of mine summed up nicely on FB: "It's always a revelation to work with kids who don't remember living in a pre-9/11 world. They've never gone to the gate to pick up their grandparents at the airport. There's always been a war in their lives (or at least in their memories). They "get" that it happened and that it has historical significance, but to them it isn't any more interesting or serious than Pearl Harbor was to my generation."
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Reviewing what "they" achieved as listed above by st2lemans, I think it is not far fetched to question WHO ARE "THEY".
Oh man - here we go...

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Old 12.09.2012, 16:56
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Here, 20 Mins (or Blick Abend - I can't tell the difference tbh) ran with Peaches Geldof having a spot of bother with a pushchair on the front page
"20min" has a blue logo/text, and is distributed for the morning commute. "Blick am Abend" uses more pink colors and is distributed for the evening commute.

I found the Peaches Geldof story highly disturbing. How can she keep talking on the phone when her kids stroller has fallen over?
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Old 12.09.2012, 17:16
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Re: 9/11 tragedy in world media

I see a lot of reasons for it:
1. To remind people that there's always evil in the world.
2. For those countries not directly affected by the attack, but in some way aligned with the US, a reminder that, without vigilance, this could be you next.
3. Because, as others have said, the reaction to this event (Afghanistan, War on Terror, Iraq, etc) is ongoing.
4. There is tons of sensational, moving footage, and sensational, moving footage sells commercials on news channels.
4a. Because, since 9/11/2001, 9/11 has typically been a slow news day.

Coverage was dropping off, but then last year was the 10th anniversary, so that brought the media's attention back. This year, I believe the US election cycle also has something to do with the amount of coverage.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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Each passing 9/11 I like to revisit Come September from Arundhati Roy

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