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1st october: private clamping illegal - GB

Remember that from 1st of October a clamping and towing ban becomes effective under the protection of freedoms act 2012.

* there are some exceptions at airports, railway stations etc but its not a blanket exception.

The fake parking tickets people recieve in supermarket or retail car parks also can now only claim actual losses, so no more £60 "fines" for overstaying 30 mins in a 2hr car park etc same goes for motorway rest stop time limits.

remember its just an invoice from a private individual/company there is no legal requirement to pay !

As always, advice for private parking tickets is to IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE

happy driving
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remember its just an invoice from a private individual/company there is no legal requirement to pay !

As always, advice for private parking tickets is to IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE

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It's no different to a council issued parking ticket in the UK, just most people just pay up.
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it's no different to a council issued parking ticket in the uk, just most people just pay up.

it is very very different from a council ticket !!!!!
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it is very very different from a council ticket !!!!!
Thats what they would like you to think, most people will just pay up.

Fixed Penalty Notices: The clue is in the name
Fixed penalty notice is a deceptive instrument, because it looks like a serious document which has been dutifully attached to your car. It carries precisely zero authority. You park on a double yellow line, you get one.
A notice is not a bill. A notice is not a demand. A notice is nothing more than... an OFFER. It is an offer to discuss the notice with which you have been served.
You can discharge a notice with a notice of your own sent by recorded delivery. So if you receive a fixed penalty notice then don't ignore it! To do so is accepting the views the notice expresses, whatever they are!


Islington backed down when challenged!
http://www.tpuc.org/node/393

And another council backed down when challenged!
http://www.tpuc.org/content/chris-le...ice-climb-down

It's nothing more than Fraudulent coercion for voluntry payments, long live common law in the UK!

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Re: 1st october: private clamping illegal - GB

oh dear

I really hope you are not a "freeman of the land" believer!

Lets not confuse the issue for mr average shall we.

private tickets are not issued by any authority
council issued tickets are issued by an authority

For those who don’t know what a FMOTL is, in essence, they do not recognise modern legislation, only common law.

This means that unless harm, loss or damage has been caused, and as we (the people), can only be policed by consent, then if they do not contract, they are not obliged to do anything a police officer requests of them.

It is very common for FMOTL to be out on the public highway in deregistered vehicles, with no driving licence, no insurance etc, as they deem their vehicle to be private property and when exercising their ‘right to travel’, again if no harm, loss or damage has been caused, then if they do not contract are effectively immune to any imposition that modern acts such as road traffic legislation might impose.

The police obviously ignore the bits of paper they are presented with stating this and that and simply impound the vehicle.

The problem that then exists for the FMOTL is they then struggle to supply any documentation that links them to the vehicle and often it is crushed.



There was quite a good video on youtube where by mr freeman of the land tosser deregistered his car, his driving licence and his insurance etc

he was stopped (obviously) dicked the cops around for an hour saying he is travelling and under bill this, bill that he didnt need anything..


what happened? he got taken to court, his car ended up as tin cans and he got charged.

He went surprisingly quiet after his arrest and ignored all questions relating to the outcome of his car, i wonder why

Pepipoo gets quite a few people that have been sucked into this "freeman" bullshit, they come to pepipoo when the shit has really hit the fan and they get court papers and the bailiff has taken away the furniture and TV.

Be very very careful if trying the freeman defence route, expect to look a knob and have court appointed bailiffs knocking on the door - NOT debt collectors who are powerless!

if it so clear that council tickets are not valid why are there only a few cancellations? I would have thought that freeman sites would be full of "victory" letters

The freeman mindset can be summerised in this video.. its american but same applies...

http://www.strangebeaver.com/2012/09...e-court-house/
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Re: 1st october: private clamping illegal - GB

Just so that I understand: If at a MIGROS parking lot, I got a ticket, I wouldn't have to pay?
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Forget it - just saw you are talking about GB.
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Re: 1st october: private clamping illegal - GB

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Remember that from 1st of October a clamping and towing ban becomes effective under the protection of freedoms act 2012.

* there are some exceptions at airports, railway stations etc but its not a blanket exception.

The fake parking tickets people recieve in supermarket or retail car parks also can now only claim actual losses, so no more £60 "fines" for overstaying 30 mins in a 2hr car park etc same goes for motorway rest stop time limits.

remember its just an invoice from a private individual/company there is no legal requirement to pay !

As always, advice for private parking tickets is to IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE

happy driving
Self-policing in most counties is prohibited. The private companies mentioned however will keep records of carplate-numbers and in case of repetition will advise the police
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Self-policing in most counties is prohibited. The private companies mentioned however will keep records of carplate-numbers and in case of repetition will advise the police
Not in GB.. the parking companies or land owner can contact the police every few seconds if they wish.

Parking or trespass on private property is covered by civil law, not criminal so of no interest to police in GB (Scotland has different trespass laws)

The only legal options available is to take the driver/keeper to civil court to reclaim loss of parking fees etc... But chances of this reaching and succeeding in court is virtually zero.

But if parking in a paid for car park, I would trust that people do pay to park, its only fair.

Unfortunately, there will be some that will use the change in law to park where they want on private land but they then should not be too surprised to find the car damaged on return.

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Unfortunately, there will be some that will use the change in law to park where they want on private land but they then should not be surprised too find the car damaged on return.
However the police may investigate the damage as it's probably criminal, in mot an accident. Failing to report an accident will be another possible 'issue'
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Re: 1st october: private clamping illegal - GB

possible, most likely is " yes mate, here is a crime number, claim from your insurance"
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