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Why they chose to be there and where they came from is a question I hope you can answer yourself.
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.....the list goes on... all invented in the tiny country Israel. Does anyone know what was invented in the arab countries ?
The point being what then exactly?
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The point being what then exactly?
Looking at the map and wondering at the size of this country and what
they gave to the world made me think. What did the many arab countries
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Did you know that:

The PillCam Video Capsules -
A robot that performs spine surgery
Optical Heartbeat Monitor
Intel rocessors
Disk on Key
Voice Over Internet Protocol technology
Smart drip and micro-irrigation systems
Monitoring water distribution networks software
BriefCam
Smart Hospital Bed
The world's first solar window
The Wind Tulip
Solar energy grids that float on water
A method to turn used plastic bags to new fashion products
Helping drivers navigate the road
Monitoring phones and GPS devices to provide real time road traffic info
Smart drip and micro-irrigation systems
Monitoring water distribution networks software
Like-A-Fish
A Bike that is also a stroller
The first electric hair remover
Babysense

.....the list goes on... all invented in the tiny country Israel. Does anyone know what was invented in the arab countries ?
As I requested befor I need a recipe for chicken wings
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Re: Is Mr Netanyahu right ?

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Brigitte Gabriel's speech she made at duke university
"I'm proud and honored to stand here today as a Lebanese speaking for Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East. As someone who was raised in an Arabic country, I want to give you a glimpse into the heart of the Arabic world.

I was raised in Lebanon where I was taught that the Jews are evil, Israel is the devil, and the only time we will have peace in the Middle East is when we kill all the Jews and drive them into the sea.

When the Muslims and Palestinians declared jihad on the Christians in 1975, they started massacring the Christians city after city. I ended up living in a bomb shelter underground from age 10 to 17, without electricity, eating grass to live, and crawling under sniper bullets to a spring to get water.

It was Israel who came to help the Christians in Lebanon. My mother was wounded by a Muslim shell and was taken into an Israeli hospital for treatment. When we entered the emergency room, I was shocked at what I saw. There were hundreds of people wounded, Muslims, Palestinians, Lebanese Christians, and Israeli soldiers lying on the floor. The doctors treated everyone according to their injury. They treated my mother before they treated the Israeli soldier lying next to her. They didn't see religion, they didn't see political affiliation; they saw people in need and they helped.

For the first time in my life, I experienced a human quality that I know my culture would not have shown to their enemy. I experienced the values of the Israelis, who were able to love their enemy in their most trying moments. I spent 22 days at that hospital; those days changed my life and the way I believe information, the way I listen to the radio or to television. I realized that I was sold a fabricated lie by my government about the Jews and Israel, which was so far from reality. I knew for a fact that if I were a Jew standing in an Arab hospital, I would be lynched and thrown to the ground as shouts of joy of “Allahu Akbar” (God is great) echoed through the hospital and the surrounding streets.

I became friends with the families of the wounded Israeli soldiers, one in particular, Rina, whose only child was wounded in his eyes. One day, I was visiting with her and the Israeli army band came to play national songs to lift the spirits of the wounded soldiers. As they surrounded his bed playing a song about Jerusalem, Rina and I started crying. I felt out of place and started walking out of the room, and this mother held my hand and pulled me back in without even looking at me. She held me, crying, and said, "It is not your fault." We just stood there, crying, holding each other's hands.
What a contrast between her—a mother looking at her deformed, 19-year-old only child and still able to love me, the enemy—and a Muslim mother who sends her son to blow himself up to smithereens just to kill a few Jews or Christians.

The difference between the Arabic world and Israel is a difference in values and character. It's barbarism versus civilization. It's democracy versus dictatorship. It's goodness versus evil.

Once upon a time, there was a special place in the lowest depths of hell for anyone who would intentionally murder a child. Now, the intentional murder of Israeli children is legitimized as Palestinian "armed struggle." However, once such behavior is legitimized against Israel, it is legitimized everywhere in the world, constrained by nothing more than the subjective belief of people who would wrap themselves in dynamite and nails for the purpose of killing children in the name of god.

Because the Palestinians have been encouraged to believe that murdering innocent Israeli civilians is a legitimate tactic for advancing their cause, the whole world now suffers from a plague of terrorism, from Nairobi to New York, from Moscow to Madrid, from Bali to Beslan.

They blame suicide bombings on the "desperation of occupation." Let me tell you the truth. The first major terror bombing committed by Arabs against the Jewish state occurred 10 weeks before Israel even became independent. On Sunday morning, February 22, 1948, in anticipation of Israel 's independence, a triple truck bomb was detonated by Arab terrorists on Ben Yehuda Street in what was then the Jewish section of Jerusalem. Fifty-four people were killed and hundreds were wounded.

Thus, it is obvious that Arab terrorism is caused not by "desperation" or "occupation", but by the VERY THOUGHT of a Jewish state.

So many times in history in the last 100 years, citizens have stood by and done nothing, allowing evil to prevail. As America stood up against and defeated communism, now it is time to stand up against the terror of religious bigotry and intolerance. It's time for everyone to stand up and support and defend the State of Israel, which is the front line of the war against terrorism.

Thank you." — with Brigitte Gabriel.
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As I requested befor I need a recipe for chicken wings

INGREDIENTS
3 pounds large chicken wings
1/4 cup vegetable oil
1-1/2 tablespoons Traeger Pork and Poultry Shake, or your favorite barbecue rub
1 cup Irish beer (lager, stout, or ale)
1/2 cup (1 stick) butter
2 tablespoons apple jelly or honey, or more to taste
1 cup Crystal, Frank’s RedHot®, or other Louisiana-style hot sauce

PREPARATION

Rinse the chicken wings under cold running water and pat dry. With a sharp knife, cut the wings into three pieces through the joints. Discard the wing tips, or save for chicken stock. Transfer the remaining “drumettes” and “flats” to a large a bowl. Add the oil and the Traeger Pork and Poultry shake, and toss with your hands to coat the wings evenly. Make the beer sauce: In a small saucepan, bring the beer to a boil over high heat and reduce by half. Reduce the heat to medium-low and add the butter, stirring until melted. Stir in the apple jelly and the hot sauce. Keep warm. When ready to cook, start the Traeger grill on Smoke with the lid open until the fire is established (4 to 5 minutes). Set the temperature to 350 degrees F and preheat, lid closed, for 10 to 15 minutes. Arrange the wings on the grill grate. Cook for 45 to 50 minutes, or until the chicken is no longer pink at the bone, turning once halfway through. Transfer the wings to a large clean bowl and pour the beer sauce over the wings, tossing to coat. Serve immediately.

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Old 19.11.2012, 19:26
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The difference between the Arabic world and Israel is a difference in values and character. It's barbarism versus civilization. It's democracy versus dictatorship. It's goodness versus evil.
Nice, classy lady. Next she will be saying that black people are naturally below white people and that slavery is the natural state of the world.
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Re: Is Mr Netanyahu right ?

What I don't understand is how come that Israel and its "friends" have such bad PR.

Some users here reflect the dumb mob of Israel's "civilization" (btw I agree on the fact that Israel is a democracy and that by comparison with many Arab country it is socially and institutionally much more developed, problem is one cannot deduct from that every means for having a war is OK and that a better development could justify being somehow superior or "worthier").

Many idiotic statements here and there.

I beg to consider that Israel - in the opposite to most Arab countries - depends desperately upon Western societies (also it it would be the last thing Israel would admit), so please don't be so stupid. Thx.
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Old 19.11.2012, 19:39
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INGREDIENTS
3 pounds large chicken wings
1/4 cup vegetable oil
1-1/2 tablespoons Traeger Pork and Poultry Shake, or your favorite barbecue rub
1 cup Irish beer (lager, stout, or ale)
1/2 cup (1 stick) butter
2 tablespoons apple jelly or honey, or more to taste
1 cup Crystal, Frank’s RedHot®, or other Louisiana-style hot sauce

PREPARATION

Rinse the chicken wings under cold running water and pat dry. With a sharp knife, cut the wings into three pieces through the joints. Discard the wing tips, or save for chicken stock. Transfer the remaining “drumettes” and “flats” to a large a bowl. Add the oil and the Traeger Pork and Poultry shake, and toss with your hands to coat the wings evenly. Make the beer sauce: In a small saucepan, bring the beer to a boil over high heat and reduce by half. Reduce the heat to medium-low and add the butter, stirring until melted. Stir in the apple jelly and the hot sauce. Keep warm. When ready to cook, start the Traeger grill on Smoke with the lid open until the fire is established (4 to 5 minutes). Set the temperature to 350 degrees F and preheat, lid closed, for 10 to 15 minutes. Arrange the wings on the grill grate. Cook for 45 to 50 minutes, or until the chicken is no longer pink at the bone, turning once halfway through. Transfer the wings to a large clean bowl and pour the beer sauce over the wings, tossing to coat. Serve immediately.

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Try this link
The United States has given Egypt an average of $2 billion annually since 1979

There are always different views
Well, but for a different purpose....The Suez. Israel isn't strategic other than for Jerusalem and few, if any, politicians are willing to disagree with the aid to Israel due to the fact that anytime you bring up the issue, you get shouted down as a nazi if you think we should either arm them all or arm none of them.

And Halevai, groaning posters simply because you disagree with their opinion isn't really going to persuade anyone that Israel is a poor victim of angry terrorists armed with rocks and homemade rockets.
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What do you suggest Netanyahu do ?
Since Sunday last week his citizens are being showered with rockets coming from Gaza, and after numerous warning they still did not stop, how would you as prime minister react ?
well for a start , how about implementing the international law ???which would mean
1. All the OCCUPIED territories have to be vacated
2. The right to return displaced palestinians.
3. All the settlements have to be dismantled.


And while you are at it ....please make sure IDF does not do this to the poor children

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...inian-children
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8081393.html

If IDF does this , no wonder rockets are coming and no flowers...
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Looking at the map and wondering at the size of this country and what
they gave to the world made me think. What did the many arab countries
invent ?
Again, what is the exact point that you're trying to make?
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And while you are at it ....please make sure IDF does not do this to the poor children

If IDF does this , no wonder rockets are coming and no flowers...


Just because the IDF has a horrible PR does not mean they do up most to avoid civilian casualties. Which other army in the world do you who calls residents and warns them to leave the building before it gets bombed !
Why do they bomb it in the first place !? Because there either used to launch rockets or there used to store them !
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Just because the IDF has a horrible PR
The IDF soldiers speaking out of their conscience has nothing to do with IDF PR. They are telling what they have been doing (regretfully).

Looking at the (dis)proportion of child deaths in even the the last gaza conflict and seeing this coming out of IDF soldiers , it is really is not difficult to connect the dots..

Gaza is the most densely populated jail (sieged from all sides ), I must say, so bombing there with heavy artillery and then simply blaming the deaths entirely on others is just curious at best.


May be we can learn something from this discussion?
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Inconclusive I drink beer out of a bierstein from munich octoberfest. I never been to munich
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Just because the IDF has a horrible PR does not mean they do up most to avoid civilian casualties. Which other army in the world do you who calls residents and warns them to leave the building before it gets bombed !
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Are you serious?

It's exactly that what I meant.

How could a person seriously think that such a message in a densely populated, multiple-store urban area like Aza could ever be a "warning"? How could a person possibly stay away from governmental or para-governmental orgs or persons in a place like Aza, please, without possible exit as a result of Israeli irresponsibility? What do I know what the person living above or below my flat of a multi-store building is doing for a living or in his spare time?

You must really think that everybody is idiot here.

That's not the point, anyway. However, seems Zahal does, too, and that's shocking.

Underestimation of the ambiente could be the final step towards total defeat.

I think Israel is in more danger than ever.
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Just because the IDF has a horrible PR does not mean they do up most to avoid civilian casualties. Which other army in the world do you who calls residents and warns them to leave the building before it gets bombed !
Why do they bomb it in the first place !? Because there either used to launch rockets or there used to store them !
An artillery or airforce grenade on impact does a complete destruction (depending on the material around) within a diameter of 5 to 15 meters, and is still deadly in a diameter of up to 25 or 30 meters (depending on the sort of grenade).

What does this mean ? It means that any such grenade arriving in densely populated areas like most of the Gaza Territory inevitably causes casualties among the civilian population.

And let's face it, the actual aim of the Israelis is to liquidate the strategic capacity of the Hamas government of Gaza . As the Israeli armed forces have a decent "fire guiding organisation" while Hamas quite obviously does not, the Israelis are strong enough to succeed.
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well for a start , how about implementing the international law ???which would mean
1. All the OCCUPIED territories have to be vacated
2. The right to return displaced palestinians.
3. All the settlements have to be dismantled.
And then? Do you think that would satisfy the Palestinian side? Would you predict them dropping their suicide belts if those points were implemented?
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And then? Do you think that would satisfy the Palestinian side? Would you predict them dropping their suicide belts if those points were implemented?
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