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Old 30.11.2012, 04:09
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

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Hundreds of young girls are murdered every year in Europe and North America and Australia, but this is worse, apparently.

That's because wog murder is always several degrees worse than murder. Always.
What's a wog murder?

Can I just point out, if we gave young girls military training instead of the young boys, maybe the murderers would be more afraid to raise a hand since the young girls are being killed by men? I would theorize that a year of intense krav maga training for women would certainly lower the number of women being murdered.

It would certainly change the dynamic... and make things more interesting. it's not like Swiss conscripts are in war zones where you need to have the biggest strongest guys for hand to hand combat.

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Where did I say it did not happen in the west?
Also where in the west is accepted by a lot of the population?

The majority of murders of this nature in the west are usually carried out by people who are eventually found to be mentally unstable.
The majority of murders of this nature carried out in Afghan are carried out because the murderer, his family his friends etc think it is the right thing to do.
I think a lot of people are not aware of Afghanistan's secular voice in the 70s. A lot of women in the region flourished due to the Soviet Union's official gender-equality stance. There were women in all facets of life breathing for the first time. People are acting this way now because they conformed in order to survive, I doubt this is the normal state of affairs anywhere in the world.

Though, I think the attitude that women need to be cared for is at the heart of the victimization of women.
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Old 30.11.2012, 05:18
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

I really do not get the discussion here - neither side to be honest:

This is a terrible murder. Yes, murders happen in other countries as well, but:

- Afghanistan is the most dangerous country for women. Full stop.

- I cannot recall a Western country where it is pretty normal that some religious nutters attack hospitals where women work.

- I cannot recall a single case in the Western world (not sure about the 19th century, but say within the last hundred years or so?) where schools were bombed for teaching girls.

- I do not think women fear acid attacks in Europe if they turn down a guy...

- We do not tend to lock up women in prison for trying to leave their parents without being married

- We do not arrest women for having sex before getting married.

The reason the media reports about this murder is that it is a prime example of a bigger picture - cultural violence against women. Of course can you dismiss it with "we have murder as well" just as you can hype it up as an incredibly bad case - but the entire point is that it is not a single unrelated case, but part of the current society in Afghanistan.
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Old 30.11.2012, 09:11
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I really do not get the discussion here - neither side to be honest:

This is a terrible murder. Yes, murders happen in other countries as well, but:

- Afghanistan is the most dangerous country for women. Full stop.

- I cannot recall a Western country where it is pretty normal that some religious nutters attack hospitals where women work.

- I cannot recall a single case in the Western world (not sure about the 19th century, but say within the last hundred years or so?) where schools were bombed for teaching girls.

- I do not think women fear acid attacks in Europe if they turn down a guy...

- We do not tend to lock up women in prison for trying to leave their parents without being married

- We do not arrest women for having sex before getting married.

The reason the media reports about this murder is that it is a prime example of a bigger picture - cultural violence against women. Of course can you dismiss it with "we have murder as well" just as you can hype it up as an incredibly bad case - but the entire point is that it is not a single unrelated case, but part of the current society in Afghanistan.
Good post.
There is one case of a European woman being disfigured by an acid attack that I can think of. Thankfully women in the west do not live with the constant fear of these attacks, unlike in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...iel-Lynch.html
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Reading this thread, I've come to realise that the wretched savages in Afghanistan are in desperate need of education by proper human beings like us. To this end, I have just handed in my notice and have already set the wheels in motion to establish a mission school in Kandahar in order to bring the Light of Civilisation and Right and Proper Thinking to the ignorant brutes of that province.

Courses for the young ladies will include: Bulimia, Anorexia and Pigging Out at McDonalds; Self-Harm for Beginners; Cyber-bullying and How To Use Facebook to Destroy Your Friends; Binge-Drinking and Throwing Up in the Street; Casual Sex With Strangers and the Delights of Teenage Pregnancy; Recreational Drugs and Having it Large; and Watching the Telly.

I look forward to achieving what generations of well-meaning European colonial administrators have failed to achieve over the last two centuries. It is time these wretched creatures were taught how to live properly and be civilised just like what we are!

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Old 30.11.2012, 09:53
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

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Reading this thread, I've come to realise that the wretched savages in Afghanistan are in desperate need of education by proper human beings like us. To this end, I have just handed in my notice and have already set the wheels in motion to establish a mission school in Kandahar in order to bring the Light of Civilisation and Right and Proper Thinking to the ignorant brutes of that province.

Courses for the young ladies will include: Bulimia, Anorexia and Pigging Out at McDonalds; Self-Harm for Beginners; Cyber-bullying and How To Use Facebook to Destroy Your Friends; Binge-Drinking and Throwing Up in the Street; Casual Sex With Strangers and the Delights of Teenage Pregnancy; Recreational Drugs and Having it Large; and Watching the Telly.

I look forward to achieving what generations of well-meaning European colonial administrators have failed to achieve over the last two centuries. It is time these wretched creatures were taught how to live properly and be civilised just like what we are!

Here's to a New Age of Imperial Enlightenment! Hurrah! God Save the Queen &c.
Sometimes DB, you even exceed your own established limits of pomposity.
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Reading this thread, I've come to realise that the wretched savages in Afghanistan are in desperate need of education by proper human beings like us. To this end, I have just handed in my notice .
Good luck and hopefully you don't have internet access.
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Good luck and hopefully you don't have internet access.
So what are you going to do about this terrible situation you've brought to our attention?
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

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Reading this thread, I've come to realise that the wretched savages in Afghanistan are in desperate need of education by proper human beings like us. To this end, I have just handed in my notice and have already set the wheels in motion to establish a mission school in Kandahar in order to bring the Light of Civilisation and Right and Proper Thinking to the ignorant brutes of that province.

Courses for the young ladies will include: Bulimia, Anorexia and Pigging Out at McDonalds; Self-Harm for Beginners; Cyber-bullying and How To Use Facebook to Destroy Your Friends; Binge-Drinking and Throwing Up in the Street; Casual Sex With Strangers and the Delights of Teenage Pregnancy; Recreational Drugs and Having it Large; and Watching the Telly.

I look forward to achieving what generations of well-meaning European colonial administrators have failed to achieve over the last two centuries. It is time these wretched creatures were taught how to live properly and be civilised just like what we are!

Here's to a New Age of Imperial Enlightenment! Hurrah! God Save the Queen &c.


I thought you said you were going to Afghanistan - looks like your course would be more suited to the UK.
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I thought you said you were going to Afghanistan - looks like your course would be more suited to the UK.
Indeed. I'm bringing British Enlightenment to the World, innit!
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

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So what are you going to do about this terrible situation you've brought to our attention?
But that is more the point, isn't it? The reason western media reports on atrocities carried out in Afghanistan is not to show us that they are some sort of savages (well, that might depend on the newspaper you read... but the ones I read do not). They point out that after TEN years of US occupation - have the same crimes against women that were the trademark of the Taleban regime... not really stopped.

I for one expected these guys by now to have cut off their beards and be eating burgers at McDs and drinking "coffee" at Starbucks.
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So what are you going to do about this terrible situation you've brought to our attention?
Really? Again is this all you have to offer?

Its a waste of time replying to your posts.
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Really? Again is this all you have to offer?

Its a waste of time replying to your posts.
And what are you offering? Anger and finger pointing?

This thread is nothing more than outrage porn. It does nothing, absolutely nothing, for the women you're bleating about.
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And what are you offering? Anger and finger pointing?

This thread is nothing more than outrage porn. It does nothing, absolutely nothing, for the women you're bleating about.
Welcome to the EF.
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

hundered thousands of Afghan girls and boys were bombed when they refused to agree with US

This really is one messed up country (US).
I honestly do not see how this kind of insane behaviour can be stopped

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That's because wog murder is always several degrees worse than murder. Always.
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And what are you offering? Anger and finger pointing?

This thread is nothing more than outrage porn. It does nothing, absolutely nothing, for the women you're bleating about.
You may think that this is trolling. But we're assured by DB it's not. Even the use of deliberately provocative racial language doesn't make it trolling.

So that's alright then. I vote that we continue feeding it. Who's with me?
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And what are you offering? Anger and finger pointing?

This thread is nothing more than outrage porn. It does nothing, absolutely nothing, for the women you're bleating about.
OK let me help you out and explain how forums are supposed to work.

Someone creates a thread
People discuss/debate/agree/disagree etc etc etc (no anger, no porn, no finger pointing, no offerings) after a while thread disappears.
Threads are not created to change the world.

but

sadly you do always get some who come into threads with smart ass comments thinking they are 100% right and everyone else is wrong so instead of debating they just add smart ass comments.
In some cases they even come onto threads to deliberately 'de rail' the threads. Can you believe there are losers like that out there?

Generally the latter spoil forums and threads disappear quicker than normal because due to the smart ass posts they go off topic and nobody can be bothered with faceless smart asses.

Thankfully it is the internet and these peoples smart ass attitude can be taking with a pinch of salt as most of the time in the real world they are loser with zero friends or social skills.
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Funny how everybody is more interested in getting the boot in than actually addressing the point I'm making.

And Caviarchips: are you in love with me or something?
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Funny how everybody is more interested in getting the boot in than actually addressing the point I'm making.

And Caviarchips: are you in love with me or something?
I am sorry DB, but I don't get the point you are trying to make. Can we go back on the debate on the life of the women in Afghanistan? To talk about it, it is to be aware of it.

Here is a website created by afghan women to informe and show what is going on in their country. RAWA
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Re: Afghan Girl's Throat Slit Over Refusal To Wed

Afghanistan has a very unfortunate history. Things there will change, albeit slowly, and their medieval problems will be replaced by shiny modern ones. FGM will be replaced by self harm and anorexia, honour killings by serial killings. We are all on similar timelines, we were all there once.
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Funny how everybody is more interested in getting the boot in than actually addressing the point I'm making.
Because the point you are making is "you are wrong and stupid and naive to be raising the topic".

I have always thought that you have an excellent mind and great knowledge of the world, but you don't share it in the form of "Here is an alternative thought to consider"....but in the form of extreme caricature and trying to belittle those who don't have your insight. I don't know why.
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