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The prank was actually relatively harmless
how can people say it is relatively harmless when it resulted in the public humiliation of a person to such an extent that they committed suicide?
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

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It will be a sad day if any legal action is taken against the radio or the presenters.
One sad dayfor an innocent woman and a sad life for two innocent kids is indeed enough...
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Old 10.12.2012, 10:12
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how can people say it is relatively harmless when it resulted in the public humiliation of a person to such an extent that they committed suicide?
Because there is no proof that she committed suicide for this reason and not another.

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how can people say it is relatively harmless when it resulted in the public humiliation of a person to such an extent that they committed suicide?
Do you watch, You've been Framed, Prank Patrol, Punked etc etc etc, have you listed to any UK radio stations who call up people and prank them live on air, have you ever flown on Swiss and watched the funny prank show they televise on all journey's?
Pranks are part of life and 99% of the time are funny/embarrassing as was this one. Its human nature to giggle at other peoples misfortune, I am sure you have in the past.

The only reason people are up in arms about this is because the women killed herself, which is of course tragic but should we put a stop to harmless pranks, which it would have been if she had not killed herself?

If she had not killed herself, I can guarantee everyone including the UK media would be on the the side of the Australians and blaming the Royal security.
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Old 10.12.2012, 10:38
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

I find it hard to believe that this poor woman didn't at least get a serious bollocking from hospital management after this happened.
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Old 10.12.2012, 10:46
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

The root cause of this was the Royals having sex.

Clearly an open and closed case ....

Everyone has a theory. Sometimes bad things happen for the wrong reason. Sometimes good things happen by chance. I see no ill behind the DJs making the fake call, they had absolutely no way of knowing that this would end badly. These days we all want to blame someone when life happens. I have no idea of the psychological state of any of the players here, but I'm pretty sure that the DJs aren't exactly sleeping well right now.
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

I've been avoiding this thead because I'd like to keep my webspace "royal"-free.

But yeah. Common type of 'humour' - I'd call it puerile but then (a) I'm probably too old for it and (b) I do think that fonejacker has touches of genius.

The djs didn't think they'd actually get through or any information, the voices were so bad apparently, they had no idea that they'd be speaking to someone emotionally vulnerable, and I see from the little I've read that the hospital have written an angry letter to the radio station owner. OK, how about the hospital's responsibility to their staff and their patients to ensure staffing levels were well-maintained at this presumably expensive hospital and that their staff had sufficient personal support if they needed it - it is a hospital after all.

Anyway, I'm going back to avoiding this thread again but do agree with Assassin.
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

The radio hosts' interview:



Personaly, I don't think they can be blamed for that. She was psychologically weak and unstable. You don't commit suicide for so little. It's a pity, she could have pressed charges and make millions from this prank.
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

A very long time ago (in the U.S.) there was a prank show called "Candid Camera" hosted by Allen Funt (first as a radio show known as "Candid Microphone"). My point being... that after every prank they made sure to inform the "prankee" that a joke had been played on them, and making sure the prankee fully understood it was a just joke and not to be taken seriously.

I feel that if she was informed of the prank immediately afterwards, this ordeal would have been alleviated.
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Old 10.12.2012, 11:58
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how can people say it is relatively harmless when it resulted in the public humiliation of a person to such an extent that they committed suicide?
If the call was the sole reason for her suicide then it was harmful.

I cannot see that the woman was 'publicly humiliated' except incidentally by implication. The woman who has died was not the woman heard on the radio. She only put the call through. She was not named publicly in advance.
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
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Old 10.12.2012, 12:06
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If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
Absolute rubbish.
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Old 10.12.2012, 12:06
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If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
But it's not a fact, simply a supposition of some people

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Absolute rubbish.
Absolutely not. However, I respect your opinion, even if it's rubbish.
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The fault lies with the malicious public humiliation of an innocent member of the public. If there had been no 'prank' there wouldn't now be a dead person.
what's really upsetting is, if the prank did not happen and she killed herself anyway, that nobody would have noticed.
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Re: Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

Was the nurse threatened that she could lose her job because of this? If so, perhaps that is what pushed her over the edge... particularly if it meant potentially losing her entire career and if she had a family to support.

Well, what I think those two DJ's should be most ashamed of is that they tried to disturb the peace of a woman who was laying in a hospital bed with a difficult pregnancy. I personally couldn't care less about her royal status, but what if Kate loses the baby? Would it be as funny then if someone prank called in reference to it?
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If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
At this stage, suicide hasn't even been formally confirmed as the cause of her death. If it was suicide, there may have been other reasons as well as, or instead of, this.

Any suggestions are just speculation.
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If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
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But it's not a fact, simply a supposition of some people

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No, she's right. It is a fact that if the hoax call had not been done, there would indeed be a chance that she would be alive. Whether that chance would have been affected by the call, who knows...?
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But it's not a fact, simply a supposition of some people

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Nah.... it's people twisting words to reduce the implications of the hoax.

Everything we do has consequences. Usually the consequences are merely waves in an ocean, however in this case, it was a tsunami for some people. That's why people should think before doing something that could be considered hurtful.
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If there hadn't been a hoax, the chances are the woman would be alive today.

There's no getting around that fact.
I have to agree with this. I don't for one second think that the prank was intended maliciously (it just wasn't thought through properly), and of course the Dj's are devestated at the result of the hoax... but it did cause a death.

I think to say the prank and the death are not linked is highly unlikely (unless it happens to be the worlds biggest and most outlandish coincidence)... regardless of what pre-existing or underlying emotional problems she had, the shame and embarassment of this happening to her must have been crushing. We are not talking about a "normal prank" like on You've Been Framed (sorry but someone would have to be pretty dim for even comparing them)... this was a situation involving the Royal Family in a very delicate situation, with very indelicate information given out.

The overall embarassment and weight of guilt and disappointment here is very different to that of a "normal" prank due to the nature of the persons involved, and surely people must realise that.

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