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Another political assassination on British soil?

Boris Berezovsky - recent legal opponent of Roman Abramovich, long time critic of Putin and friend of Alexander Litvinenko (who was murdered in London by the FSB) - was found dead in his bath in his home in London yesterday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21914864

I assume more sabre rattling from the UK government which will only result in making live harder for Russians to travel to the UK, and for Brits to get Russian visas, but not much more besides
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

Weird! I thought it was assumed it was a suicide as he had lost his fortune and was deep in debt.
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

The world he chose to live in, this was a man who asset stripped the nation whilst it was at its most vulnerable
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Weird! I thought it was assumed it was a suicide as he had lost his fortune and was deep in debt.
What is weird about accusing Putin? It's the standard procedure, even when nothing happens, so a corpse in a bathtub is too good an opportunity to be missed. The usual, although nobody knows anything. Why wait for an investigation when one can have a popular story right away?
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

To be fair, he wasn't the only one. All of those oligarchs did the same.
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What is weird about accusing Putin? It's the standard procedure, even when nothing happens, so a corpse in a bathtub is too good an opportunity to be missed. The usual, although nobody knows anything. Why wait for an investigation when one can have a popular story right away?
If you read the story at the link, he gave an interview the day before he died and said that his life made no sense, etc.

So suicide is a very good possibility, but of course, conspiracy theorists will evoke political assassination, and even the assassination by the FSB which has never been proven, but is stated as fact.
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

The police are not saying "no suspicious circumstances" and are calling the death "unexplained". Yet the Russian official media already seem to know that it was not suicide:

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Yuri Felshtinsky, a historian and author who knew Mr Berezovsky since 1998 ... doubted suggestions the tycoon had committed suicide, and had no knowledge that his friend had been seriously ill....

The author said his suspicion was aroused because of a spate of deaths involving Kremlin critics and whistleblowers in Britain. “The conclusion was heart failure in Badri Patarkatsishvili’s case and it seems it will be the same with Boris,” said Mr Felshtinsky by telephone from Boston. “Then there was the death recently of the businessman [Alexander] Perepilichny with probably the same cause."

Berezovsky friend suggests he may have been victim of Russian hit
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

Considering that he was, by this point, utterly ruined, a suicide does seem likely.
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Considering that he was, by this point, utterly ruined, a suicide does seem likely.

A suicide may be possible but not likely. Likely clearly is an assassination
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Old 25.03.2013, 07:15
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

The private body guard had to break into the bathroom, and there he found him on the floor dead.

So he must have been killed by a dissolving poisoned dart, shot through the key hole!

The body guard is now unemployed.
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

When last week the biggest french defence lawyer (helped all the major crooks out there) dies of "suicide" off the coast of his private island in Brittany, and now this... Either there's a major shakeup/vengeance going on in the European underworld, or someone is following the script for Se7en really closely.
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A suicide may be possible but not likely. Likely clearly is an assassination
You have to consider the balance of probabilities. Why would Putin go through the effort and likely another round of condemnation to kill Berezovsky, a harmless broke man whose credibility has just been undermined by an English court that also put his testimony about Putin into doubt as well. What does he gain from killing him now, as opposed to 5 years ago when that was no longer the case?

(for that matter, I am not convinced Putin was behind Livinenko's polonium tea, either- the timing of the attack and the method may actually point to Putin's "friends" in the GRU trying to frame him during an internal struggle with the military, but I digress)
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

I'd like to pitch in the theory that he was trying to beat the Guinness Book of Records title for "Drinking your own weight in bath water".

But failed.
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

Does anyone know if he was found with a silk scarf tied around his neck?
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

I find it sad for the people who loved him, with the general respect I have for every human being. But I won't be crying for an old Eltsin boy loosing millions! The farce began long time ago, with "political asylum". All the old Eltsin boys are thoughout corrupt and guilty of half the crimes in law books of any country. If one wants to critisize Russia, the question to ask is why some corrupt people are procecuted and others are not.
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Re: Another political assassination on British soil?

there's a story in the Daily Mail about how he imported Eastern European teenage girls for sex and got serviced in his limousine with his driver doing 140 mph for the adrenaline rush.

Just saying.
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there's a story in the Daily Mail.
This is all you need to say.
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This is all you need to say.
I'll add something to that, though
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This is all you need to say.
I hate to break it to you, but the Daily Mail actually contains factual news. And pretending it doesn't is just snobbery.

I don't agree with their editorial pieces, and I think that that's where your dislike may be as well.

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