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Old 15.04.2015, 13:54
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Stung by Pope’s Remarks on Armenian Genocide, Turkish Minister Insults Argentina:

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Looking forward to Erdogan supporting the Protestants and rushing to the defence of the Falklands
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Old 15.04.2015, 13:56
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On Bloomberg:
*ERDOGAN: TURKEY COULD DEPORT ARMENIANS, IT IS NOT DOING SO
*ERDOGAN SAYS TURKEY WON'T CARE ABT EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT DECISION
*ERDOGAN: EP ARMENIA RULING WOULD BE `IN ONE EAR, OUT THE OTHER'

Just the right sort of remarks before the 100th year anniversary on 24th April; oh, Bloomberg was not bad at translation, his tone in Turkish is way worse. With risk of losing the majority in next elections and not getting his presidency (I wonder why he keeps insisting on it, he has already been acting as an almighty president since he got elected), he is getting angrier every day

The mood in local markets in Turkey is very sour, Turkish Lira just now weakening to 2.7045 and the country paying for years wasted on fattening up instead of structural reforms (reminder to myself, this last remark for Turkey not Greece=
I assume he has now lost the 35,000 Catholic votes; just a drop in the ocean of course.
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Old 15.04.2015, 13:59
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Looking forward to Erdogan supporting the Protestants and rushing to the defence of the Falklands
but ofcourse!!! we, Turks, have first discovered Americas and then Falklands
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Old 15.04.2015, 15:18
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*ERDOGAN: TURKEY COULD DEPORT ARMENIANS, IT IS NOT DOING SO
*ERDOGAN SAYS TURKEY WON'T CARE ABT EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT DECISION
*ERDOGAN: EP ARMENIA RULING WOULD BE `IN ONE EAR, OUT THE OTHER'

Just the right sort of remarks before the 100th year anniversary on 24th April; oh, Bloomberg was not bad at translation, his tone in Turkish is way worse. With risk of losing the majority in next elections and not getting his presidency (I wonder why he keeps insisting on it, he has already been acting as an almighty president since he got elected), he is getting angrier every day

The mood in local markets in Turkey is very sour, Turkish Lira just now weakening to 2.7045 and the country paying for years wasted on fattening up instead of structural reforms (reminder to myself, this last remark for Turkey not Greece=
I can stopping wondering if he suffers some sort of brain damage or maybe a mental illness making him worst and worst?

The truth is each times he makes an outrageous comment and/or decision, it's to hide something bigger passing under people's noses.
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Old 20.04.2015, 22:50
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Putin announced today he will attend the Armenian commemoration next Friday of the genocide. A Kremlin spokesman said "This will not effect our close relationship with Turkey".
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Old 21.04.2015, 00:00
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Putin announced today he will attend the Armenian commemoration next Friday of the genocide. A Kremlin spokesman said "This will not effect our close relationship with Turkey".
Until Erdogan tells him where to go in a public announcement
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Old 29.04.2015, 19:26
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Until Erdogan tells him where to go in a public announcement
As Erdogan did, see my post in "100 years" thread !!

Anyway some good news out of Turkey "A Turkish court has acquitted all 26 defendants on trial for their involvement in the Gezi protests in the summer of 2013."
Quote is from the Guardian and my tablet does not want to post link

This trial was always a farce designed to silence the opposition. Quite why this has now collapsed at this time I do not know. I forsee some more judges and prosecutors getting early compulsory retirement; or does the Boss have a cunning plan
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Old 30.04.2015, 00:56
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Quote from Bloomberg news here yesterday about the changing scene in Turkey.
"Investors Lose Faith in Turkey
Everyone knows that Argentina, Greece and Ukraine are closest to hell among debt-besieged nations.
Now another country is falling into investor purgatory. That's Turkey.

What a change! Under the leadership of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan the story of Turkey this century has been of robust growth and the mostly fulfilled promise of renewed prosperity.

Not anymore.
For the first time in at least a decade, Turkey is simultaneously suffering from slowing economic growth, declining bond and stock markets, a currency that's performing abysmally, and the perception that its credit is deteriorating, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Investors no longer are showing confidence in President Erdogan.
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Just needs Russia to turn cold on the new gas pipeline plans and things will nosedive.
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Old 30.04.2015, 07:26
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As Erdogan did, see my post in "100 years" thread !!
Sorry, I didn't follow that thread.

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Old 30.04.2015, 11:43
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Sorry, I stopped following that thread. The amount of uneducated racism bullshit I had to read in there was too overwhelming.
In that case again;

And from the boss! "Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan claimed “Armenian lies” deceived these world leaders.
“The latest countries to speak of genocide are Germany, Russia and France,” he said. “What happened during the two world wars that had been initiated by Germany in the past century is before our eyes. First, they (Germany, Russia and France) must, one by one, clean the stains on their own histories.”

Erdogan ignores the key point that these other countries do not deny their histories, unlike Turkey.

And I quote again "A Kremlin spokesman said "This will not effect our close relationship with Turkey". !!!!
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Can a public figure still keep his position after making such comments in any country other than Turkey?

“Where are you, stupid blonde, who accused Turkish police of using disproportionate force?”
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Old 30.04.2015, 22:05
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Sorry, I stopped following that thread. The amount of uneducated racism bullshit I had to read in there was too overwhelming.
Racist bullshit on the 100 years thread? Please highlight the posts you mean and we can have a discussion.
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Old 30.04.2015, 23:57
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Can a public figure still keep his position after making such comments in any country other than Turkey?

“Where are you, stupid blonde, who accused Turkish police of using disproportionate force?”
Quote here "The mayor of Turkey’s capital city has been accused of hypocrisy after tweeting a string of sexist and anti-American comments against a US official – but launching hundreds of lawsuits against people who use Twitter to criticise him."
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Racist bullshit on the 100 years thread? Please highlight the posts you mean and we can have a discussion.
Oups, sorry, I was thinking of the thread about the immigrants.



I'll edit it
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Quote here "The mayor of Turkey’s capital city has been accused of hypocrisy after tweeting a string of sexist and anti-American comments against a US official – but launching hundreds of lawsuits against people who use Twitter to criticise him."
Figures, since Turkey is still insisting on rewriting history which should concern us all- not least because in a world where Islamic forces are, once again, brutally attacking Christians in the Middle East and Africa, the lessons of the past should be finally learned.
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Old 01.05.2015, 11:22
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Figures, since Turkey is still insisting on rewriting history which should concern us all- not least because in a world where Islamic forces are, once again, brutally attacking Christians in the Middle East and Africa, the lessons of the past should be finally learned.
The basic issue is the arrogance of forcing the rules of your religion on people who are not members.
Imagine, for example, the situation if the Hindus started killing people who eat beef or the Jews killing people who work on Saturday.
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Old 31.05.2015, 21:22
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Erdogan and Prime Minister of Turkey declare (again) they will unite the Muslim world to liberate Jerusalem and then later form the Caliphate
First challenge is to unite Saudi and Iran
Wonder what they plan for the day after?

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/erdogan-and...#ixzz3bk2dT9ER
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Old 31.05.2015, 21:43
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Erdogan named an airport after a Kurd and makes a silly speech. Figures.
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Very good summary on Bloomberg about which way AKP/Erdogan led country is going..

Some excerpts from the same article are quite scary;

On Erdogan's impartiality:
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Erdogan, who’s not in the race because the president is legally required to be impartial to political parties, has slammed the opposition and appealed for AKP votes. Most of his wrath is saved for the HDP.
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In Kurdish regions in the east, he strode across podiums with a Kurdish-language Koran in hand, a controversial act in a country where the president’s oath binds him to safeguard “the principles of the secular republic.” He warned crowds that opponents are anti-Muslim and worshippers of an ancient religion with origins in Iran.
and a good example of his/AKP supporters:
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Yet the AKP message has resonance among some Turks. Cigdem Alpaslan, a home-maker in Ankara who’s the same age as Sulu, said she agreed with the party on homosexuality.
“I swear our president and the AKP are right,” Alpaslan said. “Forget about these types getting into parliament. They shouldn’t even be out on the streets.”
I have always been critical of islamist parties and hated AKP from the start. Even among my friends I was seen as too conservative and too prejudiced. Wish developments would prove me wrong but on the contrary. AKP has brought the country to complete division; with supporters such as above, the divisions within the Turkish society seem permanent and I do not see how we will live together going forward
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Old 04.06.2015, 11:34
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Also a good article in the ft here.
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