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Old 31.10.2015, 12:08
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Turkish election tomorrow; may God protect the voters

Meanwhile the ex-friend Russia did not heed Erdogan’s threats re Syria and counter-attacked. Its first countermeasure was to stop issuing transit passage documents to Turkish trucks carrying Turkey’s exports to Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Mongolia.

Turkish exports to the Middle East and the Gulf had already hit bottom when Turkish trucks lost transit routes because of clashes in Iraq and Syria. Now an annual $2 billion worth of exports to Central Asia is at risk with the Russian sanction.

In an announcement on its official website, the International Transporters Association (UND) reported that transit passage documents through Russia have been annulled and warned transporters and exporters not to send their trucks unless they have valid documents.
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Old 01.11.2015, 21:22
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Erdogans party won a majority in the new parliament.
Looks like the witch hunt strategy worked to get voters from the far right.

This result is really bad for democracy but in a sense it makes me happy because it's bad for Turkey on the long run.
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Old 01.11.2015, 23:08
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Erdogans party won a majority in the new parliament.
Looks like the witch hunt strategy worked to get voters from the far right.

This result is really bad for democracy but in a sense it makes me happy because it's bad for Turkey on the long run.
why does it make you happy?
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Old 01.11.2015, 23:36
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it's bad for Turkey on the long run.
and thus bad for europe, unless you want more turks which btw 60% voted AKP in germany, thankfully in CH only 10% did.
also turkey is an important buffer for the syrian refugees influx as many choose to stay in turkey.
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Old 01.11.2015, 23:46
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and thus bad for europe, unless you want more turks which btw 60% voted AKP in germany, thankfully in CH only 10% did.
also turkey is an important buffer for the syrian refugees influx as many choose to stay in turkey.
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Old 02.11.2015, 00:36
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Erdogans party won a majority in the new parliament.
Looks like the witch hunt strategy worked to get voters from the far right.

This result is really bad for democracy but in a sense it makes me happy because it's bad for Turkey on the long run.
To quote Stalin
"It does not matter who votes;it only matters who counts the votes"

The only positive point is they did not have the balls to reduce the HDP vote below 10%

Sad day for democracy
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Old 02.11.2015, 15:20
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why does it make you happy?
I may explain it further when I have the time to write a long post, but the most important part of it is that this result will hopefully:
1. further destabilize Southeastern Turkey and one day allow the Kurdish part of Turkey join a big Kurdistan.
2. further isolate the Turkish government in its own world where Turkey is a local super power and has influence over its neighbors.
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I may explain it further when I have the time to write a long post, but the most important part of it is that this result will hopefully:
1. further destabilize Southeastern Turkey and one day allow the Kurdish part of Turkey join a big Kurdistan.
2. further isolate the Turkish government in its own world where Turkey is a local super power and has influence over its neighbors.
3. reviving hopes for Constantinople?

As much as I disapprove of the current Turkish government, a weak(er) Turkey would not be beneficial for most of her neighbors only adding to the current mess in middle east
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Old 02.11.2015, 16:47
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3. reviving hopes for Constantinople?
Not as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Since Russia is involved in near eastern games, none of the western countries would like to have a weakend Turkey.

The ones celebrating the results of the election are either Erdogan's fans, Russia or China (or the other allies) I would say :/
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Old 02.11.2015, 18:00
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Since Russia is involved in near eastern games, none of the western countries would like to have a weakend Turkey.

The ones celebrating the results of the election are either Erdogan's fans, Russia or China (or the other allies) I would say :/
So you think that a stronger Turkey (supporting among other things IS) would be a good thing?
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Old 02.11.2015, 23:31
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Turkey election: OSCE says 'serious concerns' over vote
Meanwhile, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) went further and denounced the entire process as "unfair".
Look here.


Quote "Reported results also showed:
◾High voter turnout: More than 85% of the 54 million registered voters cast their ballots
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That is nothing Iran manages over 100% in their elections.
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So you think that a stronger Turkey (supporting among other things IS) would be a good thing?
to make things a little bit more clear;

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Old 03.11.2015, 09:30
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I may explain it further when I have the time to write a long post, but the most important part of it is that this result will hopefully:
1. further destabilize Southeastern Turkey and one day allow the Kurdish part of Turkey join a big Kurdistan.
2. further isolate the Turkish government in its own world where Turkey is a local super power and has influence over its neighbors.
Illusions. The kurds will not get anything, not this time, not ever. Europe will do whatever Turkey is asking them to do because we saw what happens if Turkey lets the refugees get out...
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Old 03.11.2015, 09:32
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to make things a little bit more clear;

Sorry, I have a better one.


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Old 04.11.2015, 00:29
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Re: Turkish Spring?

The Turkish government has resumed a crackdown on journalists and political rivals of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan just two days after a major electoral victory for his party that will see it return to single-party rule.

Police officers and bureaucrats loyal to an exiled cleric based in the US are among dozens of people who have been arrested by Turkish authorities.

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Old 04.11.2015, 08:31
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The Turkish government has resumed a crackdown on journalists and political rivals of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan just two days after a major electoral victory for his party that will see it return to single-party rule.

Police officers and bureaucrats loyal to an exiled cleric based in the US are among dozens of people who have been arrested by Turkish authorities.

Turkish Spring became Turkish winter in hell....
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Illusions. The kurds will not get anything, not this time, not ever. Europe will do whatever Turkey is asking them to do because we saw what happens if Turkey lets the refugees get out...

Depends on what US, Israel and Russia think. They already allowed a Kurdish state in Northern Iraq and supported then against ISIS. Besides, keeping Turkey in check by Kurds might be beneficial to some states.
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Old 06.11.2015, 23:55
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Kurdish rebels say they will resume fighting against the Turkish army, ending a unilateral ceasefire.

The PKK says its fighters will now be "resuming activities" in the country's predominantly Kurdish south-east.

President Erdogan vowed to "liquidate" the PKK on Wednesday.

So much for the people who voted for the AKP to bring peace and stability
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Kurdish rebels say they will resume fighting against the Turkish army, ending a unilateral ceasefire.

The PKK says its fighters will now be "resuming activities" in the country's predominantly Kurdish south-east.

President Erdogan vowed to "liquidate" the PKK on Wednesday.

So much for the people who voted for the AKP to bring peace and stability
No sürpriz here! Sultan Tayyip taking his empire. Dictatorship has been officially accepted by irregular votes results.

It's getting cold in here..
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