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Old 07.11.2015, 08:50
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So much for the people who voted for the AKP to bring peace and stability

This is funnier than the Greeks who voted for the Left expecting a leftwing government.
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Old 18.12.2015, 14:35
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Re: Turkish Spring?

The FT and other newspapers are reporting today that Israel and Turkey will renew diplomatic relations.
How funny, Erdogan has really run out of friends.
At one time it looked like Erdogan would be the major power broker between East and West, now he is alone and trying to make friends with Israel - so much for his Palestinian support.
I assume Israel will profit from this but will never trust Erdogan again

One major factor is the discussion about Israel laying a gas pipeline to supply Turkey.
The talks with Russia for Russia to build a new gas line to supply Turkey have crashed like the Russian plane.

It is also reported (may not be true) that Iran are reducing gas supplies to Turkey because of Turkey's attitude towards Assad!

Putin has warned Turkey to keep their planes out of Syria so Erdogan's plans to stop a Kurdish state forming are also destroyed.
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Old 18.12.2015, 14:52
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Re: Turkish Spring?

It would be interesting to see how the government media will try to sell this recent Israel agreement to the public.. I believe Erdogan will come out with another wise saying like "Money does not have any religion" when he tried to counter another Israel deal couple years back

To be clear, I am not against Turkey improving relations with Israel. It is just a very funny -sad- turn of events for Turkey after so much antiIsrael rhetoric from the government
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It would be interesting to see how the government media will try to sell this recent Israel agreement to the public.. I believe Erdogan will come out with another wise saying like "Money does not have any religion" when he tried to counter another Israel deal couple years back

To be clear, I am not against Turkey improving relations with Israel. It is just a very funny -sad- turn of events for Turkey after so much antiIsrael rhetoric from the government


About "I am not against Turkey improving relations with Israel" me too, in fact I believe it will benefit both countries.


I believe the original break with Israel was to prove Erdogan's Muslim credentials but his "zero problems with neighbours" foreign policy doctrine managed to lose all those potentially friendly countries.


About "how the government media will try to sell this recent Israel agreement" Pass the popcorn!
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Putin has warned Turkey to keep their planes out of Syria so Erdogan's plans to stop a Kurdish state forming are also destroyed.

Don't mess up with him or you will be caught and hanged immediately and Erdogan is no exception.
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Old 18.12.2015, 16:11
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Don't mess up with him or you will be caught and hanged immediately and Erdogan is no exception.
nice picture!

I do wonder though whether Putin in truth lost the chance to pull Turkey away from the West. The actual reason for shooting of the Russian jet still remains a big question mark for me looking at the aftermath
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Old 18.12.2015, 21:39
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nice picture!

I do wonder though whether Putin in truth lost the chance to pull Turkey away from the West. The actual reason for shooting of the Russian jet still remains a big question mark for me looking at the aftermath

About "The actual reason for shooting of the Russian jet still remains a big question mark"


Indeed, if it the result is really such a problem for Turkey then a simple apology and some compensation would fix it?


Maybe Erdogan was looking for an excuse not to join the US coalition bombings of ISIS in Syria? Who knows?
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Old 01.01.2016, 23:58
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Quote "Turkey's President Erdogan cites 'Hitler's Germany' as example of an effective form of government"

Source Independent here and many other newspapers.
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Quote "Turkey's President Erdogan cites 'Hitler's Germany' as example of an effective form of government"



Source Independent here and many other newspapers.

Actually it was effective. And they were allies. And used similar ethic policies. And Merkel visits paid to BdV means Germany isn't really a multi-kulti melting pot resigned to all the outcomes of WWII...
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Quote "Turkey's President Erdogan cites 'Hitler's Germany' as example of an effective form of government"

Source Independent here and many other newspapers.
I first really took notice of Erdogan when he did an interview with Tim Sebastian for BBC's 'Hard Talk' programme back in 2004. Since that day, I've been utterly convinced that Erdogan is one of the most dangerous, power hungry people walking the face of the planet.

Nothing Erdogan does surprises me, and as long he has the meerest whiff of power in Turkey, that country will never be truely free and allowed to be what it can be. Whether he's admiring Nazi Germany or 'reputedly' talking a suicidal man down from a bridge, he has a streak of evil in him that I'll never be comfortable with.
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Old 07.01.2016, 18:56
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Twitter has announced they will go to court in Turkey to dispute the 50K fine levied on them by the Turkish govt.

BTW, the Turkish govt. is now denying the EU billions were to reduce the flow of refugees to Europe. Instead they say the money was to support exsting refugees in country.

This seems different from the EU view who are saying they are not getting value for money from Turkey.
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Old 07.01.2016, 20:05
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Twitter has announced they will go to court in Turkey to dispute the 50K fine levied on them by the Turkish govt.

BTW, the Turkish govt. is now denying the EU billions were to reduce the flow of refugees to Europe. Instead they say the money was to support exsting refugees in country.

This seems different from the EU view who are saying they are not getting value for money from Turkey.
Looks like Twitter have a good chance; the Turkish Constitutional court already ruled Govt. Bans on social media are illegal.
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Old 12.01.2016, 11:31
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Kurdish rebels say they will resume fighting against the Turkish army, ending a unilateral ceasefire.

The PKK says its fighters will now be "resuming activities" in the country's predominantly Kurdish south-east.

President Erdogan vowed to "liquidate" the PKK on Wednesday.

So much for the people who voted for the AKP to bring peace and stability
"Turkish police have sealed off a square in central Istanbul after a large explosion in the historic Sultanahmet district left several dead and wounded."

Sad but not surprising.
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"Turkish police have sealed off a square in central Istanbul after a large explosion in the historic Sultanahmet district left several dead and wounded."

Sad but not surprising.
Yet they are still called Rebels, not terrorists
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"Turkish police have sealed off a square in central Istanbul after a large explosion in the historic Sultanahmet district left several dead and wounded."

Sad but not surprising.
Very sad indeed.

I stayed there in August, literally round the corner from where blast happened. It felt remarkably safe, even walking round at 3am, and was heaving with families most of the day and late into the evening.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35290760
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Old 12.01.2016, 23:59
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Speaking in Ankara today at a lunch for foreign ambassadors based in Turkey, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan made his government’s position clear.
One quote ""On the one side you have the rightful government, on the other you have those with guns and bombs. And intellectuals."

LOL, those damn intellectuals
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Re: Turkish Spring?

Following the Istanbul bombing, Turkish police have arrested 65 people including three Russians.

I assume if they arrest enough people they may eventually strike lucky and find someone connected to the bombing?
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Old 13.01.2016, 13:34
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Following the Istanbul bombing, Turkish police have arrested 65 people including three Russians.

I assume if they arrest enough people they may eventually strike lucky and find someone connected to the bombing?
the speed at which Erdogan announced the nationality of the bomber and police gathered the suspects makes one wonder why they failed to do so in other bombings
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the speed at which Erdogan announced the nationality of the bomber and police gathered the suspects makes one wonder why they failed to do so in other bombings
Because the victims were mainly foreigners and he has less regard for his own people?
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