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Old 24.05.2016, 10:43
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Re: India's mission to Mars

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Launching satellites is a multi-billion dollar business.
Great but who really benefits from it? Certainly not the average Indian.

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As for the comment re. feeding the poor and solving multiple issues, all i would say is this. Talking about poverty is a bit dis-ingenious. because the people have a right to determine where the funds should be spent. As China has shown, you can do both.
Do the people who are living in poverty, who have limited health care, sanitation, electricity, food, get to decide?

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And especially disingenious when I see countries which looted former colonies of their wealth and left devastation and poverty in their wake, now telling us how to manage our own.
Nothing of the sort, no one condones Britains colonial past and the terrible things it did in the name of an Empire, but the Maharajahs and Moguls were not any better and welcomed the infrastructure and weapons and wealth that it bought them. You cant keep blaming the British, actually Indias current state of disparity between rich and poor is not the legacy of Colonialism, but of a Caste system, corruption and overpopulation.
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Old 24.05.2016, 10:57
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Re: India's mission to Mars

Here we go again.
All answers re what the Brits did to India in video below

http://time.com/3969097/shashi-tharo...india-britain/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4

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Great but who really benefits from it? Certainly not the average Indian.
Avg indian have access to satellite TV, GPS, weather forcast etc at reasonable price because of the these launches/innovation/investment. If they succeed in reusable thing it will bring down prices hence increasing the affordability. ISRO is also sending foreign satellites to generate revenues to reduce dependency on taxpayers money. ISRO budget is around three per cent of NASA budget.


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Do the people who are living in poverty, who have limited health care, sanitation, electricity, food, get to decide?
Yes they elect their representative in the parliament and they collectively decide what to do with the money.

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Nothing of the sort, no one condones Britains colonial past and the terrible things it did in the name of an Empire, but the Maharajahs and Moguls were not any better and welcomed the infrastructure and weapons and wealth that it bought them. You cant keep blaming the British, actually Indias current state of disparity between rich and poor is not the legacy of Colonialism, but of a Caste system, corruption and overpopulation.
You need to read some Indian history.
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Old 24.05.2016, 11:25
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Re: India's mission to Mars

No point wasting time.. simple_person. You can take a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink. If Tobias-m WANTS to see a certain reality - he will, irrespective.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

A very old article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs...ug/jastrow.htm
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Old 24.05.2016, 11:31
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Re: India's mission to Mars

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I vaguely remember something about an industrial revolution or something like that... dunno...?


Nah. It was all looted. All of it. While the people in Britain sat on their arses drinking tea BEER and shooting elephants DARTS.


Yeah. That's how it happened.
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Re: India's mission to Mars

TobiasM,
It is a very foolish assertion that space programs (or any other technological advancement) shouldn't be pursued by poor nations, that they somehow divert the funds which could be better utilized in the social sector and that they don't help the poor. I think simple_person has given a good reply.

My home is in a small village in the outskirts of Kolkata and I can tell you there are more than one way that the Indian space program has helped villagers here.

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Re: India's mission to Mars

So easy to troll the Indians on here
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So easy to troll the Indians on here
So easy to be proud of being a troll Loz1983, yet so difficult to put in a cohesive response

But as an aside, I think it is true that countries which have stagnated for a long time would celebrate their achievements (small they might be) a little more vigorously. If that looks ugly to your esteemed opinion I would say just overlook the enthusiasm, please.

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So easy to troll the Indians on here
You got my goat.... and cow ... and house ... and crops ... and money.. and Koh-I-Noor.
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Old 24.05.2016, 12:07
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Whilst still accepting half a billion a year in foreign aid.
Is accepting a billion dollar 'gift' from a 12 year old legal?
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Old 24.05.2016, 12:23
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You got my goat.... and cow ... and house ... and crops ... and money.. and Koh-I-Noor.
The Koh-I-Noor was a present. It's a bit mean to ask for it back.

But it wouldn't bother me if it was cut into three and a piece given each to Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.
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Old 24.05.2016, 13:58
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The Koh-I-Noor was a present.
From a helpless 12 YO boy. How would you react if someone 'talked your kid' to gift his expensive phone in return for 'safety'?

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But it wouldn't bother me if it was cut into three and a piece given each to Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.
Fair enough. Dont keep whats not yours to keep, at least.
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Here we go again.
All answers re what the Brits did to India in video below

http://time.com/3969097/shashi-tharo...india-britain/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7CW7S0zxv4
Lol, "Reparations" - Demanding money from someone who had nothing to do with anything to pay you for something you had nothing to do with.
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Old 24.05.2016, 14:02
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It's a bit mean to ask for it back.
talking of meanness... one reason why the sun never set on the Empire was perhaps that even God did not trust the British in the dark.
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... someone who had nothing to do with anything .....
Don't they all say that?
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Re: India's mission to Mars

To be honest, I haven't got a problem giving it back to India. But there are other countries that lay claim to it too including Iran.

There's a nice bronze statue of Queen Victoria in the Lahore museum. Can I have that?
It would quite cool in my back garden.
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There's a nice bronze statue of Queen Victoria in the Lahore museum. Can I have that?.
Depends on how it got there.
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There's a nice bronze statue of Queen Victoria in the Lahore museum. Can I have that?.
Depends on how it got there.
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Depends on how it got there.
By truck, probably.
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