Well if this is correct then Ukraine should be claiming Russia

Had to check, they used to be though, now on second place, and falling.
But I still stand by my opinion that a large portion of the population is pro Russian, even without Donbas etc.
Or let me rephrase: a large part of the population think that Ukraine was better off with close ties to Russia.

another expert in Ukraine (popcorn)

Of course, in the modern world your opinion, typing from cozy Switzerland on a Friday, is equal to the opinion of an Ukrainian living next to the border not knowing exactly when a little green man with an AK 47 might crack his skull.

Due to the fact many Ukrainians are returning to Ukraine.

Actually in Bavaria.

Ukraine has democratic elections, thus if the majority wanted to elect a pro-Russian candidate they would have done in on the last elections. But obviously without Crimea and Donbass and with all the bad things Russia did in the last 7 years, the majority doesn't want a pro-Russian president anymore.

last elections was a disaster

The last elections were sponsored with American money. The last democratically elected president was pro Russia.

That's what I call Russian propaganda.

I still didn't receive my money from US government for voting for pro-western candidate on the last two elections in Ukraine. Do you think it's still not late to ask for the money?

"sponsored"

The Russian influence in Ukraine has always been deep and strong and the fact that the Ukrainians didn't elect a pro-Russian president is telling where the wind is blowing with regards to people's sentiment.

What Ukrainians want is a government that takes care of their interests and provides their people the chance to have better lives. You know, food, housing, an economy, jobs, education, hospitals, etc.

A pro-russian government is not that. Neither is a pro-western one for what matters.

Therefore all parties should leave the f. out Ukraine and leave them in peace to sort themselves out

Except Putin doesn't want that. Their (frankly, offensive) view that he should have something to say about whatever Ukraine chooses to do is precisely the reason why this crisis exists.

Well if the false-flag experts say it is a false-flag, then surely it must be a false-flag?

I mean - who else in the world would know better how to conduct the false flag?

yep, if it looks like a provocation then it must be a provocation. Especially if a 'source' says so themselves. And to Reuters.

Another false-flag expert?


Unlike Biden and NATO who are very predictable in their expension?
Or being aggressors in so many instances in the recent past?

You are not only legal/gas but intelligence expert now? But you may actually have a point - even Zakharova was asking Biden for the invasion schedule, so she can play her holidays.

There goes military expert as well.



No need to install anything - just allow for democratic elections; and you will have a pro-Russian President (does Yanukovich ring a bell?).

Exactly! But no, certainly it does not line-up with NATO interests and surely they would try to organize the new Maidan. But if so, it will not be just Crimea this time.

It doesn't. The last democratically elected president was ousted in the Africal style organized coup.

Except that you have no idea what majority of Ukrainians want (majority means Donbas + Crimea; in case you don't consider them Ukrainian any more that's another story).

This majority democratically elected Yanukovich.

Well, minority was not happy and organized coup d'etat -with support, guess from where?

So... my dear minority Ukrainians, that's what happens when you ignore the wish of majority. You asked for it.

Seriously dude Mikedrag, take a break. You're only groaning and provoking reactions here.

If you have something to say you can do it without groaning at every post which vaguely disagrees your state of mind.

And my "dear Ukrainian minority"? Seriously?

Slammer you know this.....how?

Have you ever lived there, voted there or like every Westerner you know everything better ?


TinyK, admit it you took it and give these folks here some peace of mind 'cause they'll have a heart attack if they're not right on the internet.

I mentioned this and gave one such source from „Die Zeit“ (centric-left-leaning) a few pages ago
As to my interest. I had up to three years ago quite a few customers in Ukraine, (still on FB with a few) in the Ukrainian printing industry. You generally get a keyed in person in printing.

Let him groan he's unable to formulate meaningful counter arguments and is thus quite entertaining. I like him, he's like a predictable puppy

Interesting snippet in the News at five. Moskau has told civilians in Donbas and Krim to evacuate to Russia in expectation of a Ukrainian offensive.
Things heating up it would seem.

According to the russian news, every refugee from Donbass will receive 10K rubles from the russian government. There are also rumors that people were told to evacuate from Lugansk and Donetsk republics, but men were told to stay. This doesn’t look good.