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Mustn't have dual-citizenship of RF and the Ukraine.
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World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

They will get deported to Siberia. They will have to give their land and live on a collective farm, and a famine will ensue killing millions of them.
Er, or are these the reasons why some Ukrainians hate Russia?

Now I wonder how it is to do the military service in Russia. Probably not much different than in Ukraine, as both systems share the same Soviet lineage, but given the number of suicides and a Youtube video of an Russian officer who later disappeared... Good riddance to all these nice Crimean boys.
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They will get deported to Siberia. They will have to give their land and live on a collective farm, and a famine will ensue killing millions of them.
Er, or are these the reasons why some Ukrainians hate Russia?
I think you are mistaken.
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Old 20.03.2014, 22:27
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Maybe. Sergei Aksenov, aka Goblin, Odessa's mafioso, raised to be Crimea's prime minister, lawless Cossack militia to subdue the Tatars and Ukrainians, local "self-defence" with assault weapons. And now you're saying deportations are not part of it? Sure, given enough persuasion, people will flee in their own, if only they have a place to go.
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Old 21.03.2014, 08:54
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I don't know whether you exaggerate or not. Clear of course is that many ethnic Ukraininans will now leave the Krim, But the Tatars will try to stay on.
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Old 21.03.2014, 09:43
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Seems Erdogan is stronger than the EU/US?
From today's papers "[I]Turkey has reportedly threatened to close the Bosphorus to Russian ships, if there is violence against the Crimean Tatars.
You're right, he is a strong one.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...prime-minister

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Bravo. Turkish power!
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Old 21.03.2014, 12:02
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Crimea had a referendum and voted close to 100%.
Kim Jong-Un recently also won elections with 100%.
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This is point where I generally check a map to find out how far I'm away from whatever's brewing.

Not quite far enough is the answer this time.
LOL - So true. It does not matter how far we are we are all effected by this mess!!!!!!
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Putin says thanks for being so cool:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tha...rything,35584/
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

http://www.thelocal.ch/20140320/ioc-invites-putin

It'll be a bit difficult won't it. Haven't they slapped a travel ban on him?
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Old 24.03.2014, 10:48
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It'll be a bit difficult won't it. Haven't they slapped a travel ban on him?
"Travel bans" don't mean much when your mode of transport is in a tank brigade

But seriously, no travel ban for Putin or Lavrov, as the West needs to keep communication channels open. Travel bans and "sanctions" are targeting his friends and inner circle, but not him directly.
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It'll be a bit difficult won't it. Haven't they slapped a travel ban on him?

Switzerland has not yet imposed sanctions. And Putin apparently is NOT on the blacklist of the EU

I however expect him to travel via Zürich Airport during working hours, for "tactical reasons"
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Mustn't have dual-citizenship of RF and the Ukraine.
Dual citizenship Ukraine and any country is very complex. If you do the embacy test, make it fun.... ask five different ones and compare their anwers. If you manage that without strong alcohol, you are not entirely human.
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Dual citizenship Ukraine and any country is very complex. If you do the embacy test, make it fun.... ask five different ones and compare their anwers. If you manage that without strong alcohol, you are not entirely human.
äääähm, I apologize to whomever originates from the former USSR and neighbouring areas for being blunt and generalising, but folks from these areas tend to be nicely into strong alcohol
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Russian Deputy Economic Development Minister Andrei Klepatsch, expects a capital outflow of 70 billion U.S. dollars in the first quarter of 2014 due to worries about the effect of Ukraine related sanctions - probably will be more than that.

Also Putin is talking about creating a major Russian credit card as both Visa & Mastercard stopped Russian related transactions for a time last week; believed to be back to business as usual now.

Russia will have to start thinking about measures to stop bank collapses if the outflow continues.
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äääähm, I apologize to whomever originates from the former USSR and neighbouring areas for being blunt and generalising, but folks from these areas tend to be nicely into strong alcohol
Yes, we start our day with a kolbasz and wash it down with a beer.
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Putin says thanks for being so cool:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tha...rything,35584/
Amusing and amazing EXCEPT that Vladmir I , sorry I mean Vladimir Putin, is NOT interested in the Ukraine, but in having the Crimea as a strategic plaform in the Mediterranean. Which it is not yet of course, but he will pursue three options. An Anatolian corridor of railways and highways in transit between Trabzon and Iskenderun, a comprehensive treaty with Turkey about Bosporus and Dardanelles, or a Sofia-Saloniki Macedonian Corridor
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Yes, we start our day with a kolbasz and wash it down with a beer.
Kolbasz yes, but to stay with the idea, wash it down with a BIG glass of Vodka ??
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Kolbasz yes, but to stay with the idea, wash it down with a BIG glass of Vodka ??
L'eau-de-vie....n'est-ce pas?




Hmmm, interesting...

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26761258
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26769481

Interesting viewpoint on Putin's motives. If he does try and recreate the old Russia there will be war; the only question is will it be localised or become number 3?
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