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Old 24.02.2022, 22:35
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I'm not sure who is worse nazis or soviets
but i'm sure putin is worse both of them combined
Not even in the same league. In comparison Putin is FC. Mindelheim vrs. Bayern München.
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I also saw that, but it was unconfirmed. Most reports are about continued fighting for Hostomel.

I think tomorrow would be the critical day when the Russians reach Kiev. In city warfare tanks and planes matter less and the battle will be for each corner and each building. The Ukrainian morale will be higher than the Russian one so I hope that's their plan: to hold them fighting for Kiev long enough to drain the army as Putin can't keep 2/3 of his army abroad indefinitely and he will be at increasing pressure at home to bring this to a close.
according to Kyiv's local police office, local defense troops already got 10000 automatic guns, so yes, welcome to Kyiv
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according to Kyiv's local police office, local defense troops already got 10000 automatic guns, so yes, welcome to Kyiv
By this time tomorrow it will probably be called Kiev again
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Old 24.02.2022, 22:48
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according to Kyiv's local police office, local defense troops already got 10000 automatic guns, so yes, welcome to Kyiv
The morale of the Ukrainians will be key. The conscription Russian soldiers will start asking themselves what the hell are we doing here while the Ukrainians are fighting for their homes. It's a question of how long can they hold Kiev.
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By this time tomorrow it will probably be called Kiev again
dream on
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Old 24.02.2022, 23:06
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The morale of the Ukrainians will be key. The conscription Russian soldiers will start asking themselves what the hell are we doing here while the Ukrainians are fighting for their homes. It's a question of how long can they hold Kiev.
He has made a clear threat to use nuclear strikes. The morale of Ukranians will make very little difference in this scenario.
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Old 24.02.2022, 23:14
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He has made a clear threat to use nuclear strikes. The morale of Ukranians will make very little difference in this scenario.
No, he hasn't.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

The message was very clear!
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The message was very clear!

Very clear indeed - unfortunately.
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The message was very clear!
Putin would have gone nuclear had the Krim gone sour in ´14, and there is no reason not to believe he would do the same thing in Ukraine, and as we have discussed, today´s nukes are nothing like your grandads megaton nukes where precision could not be achieved but the things were so big it simply did not matter.
So as long as Nato continues it´s navel gazing and the Ukraines lose we should not have anything to fear.
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He has made a clear threat to use nuclear strikes. The morale of Ukranians will make very little difference in this scenario.
Stop spreading misinformation. Putin "threatened " with nuclear weapons if NATO enters Ukraine to help, which was never on the table anyway
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Old 24.02.2022, 23:35
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Some footage of demonstrations in Moscow. Difficult to say much about the scale of this across Russia. These people deserve our respect, and I hope this builds up.

I expect a strong US driven campaign directed at Russian citizens: pictures of UA casualties, pictures of deserting Russian soldiers, pictures of Russian coffins, pictures of Putin's mansions.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/...nhQL0fnOg&s=19
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Old 24.02.2022, 23:50
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Stop spreading misinformation. Putin "threatened " with nuclear weapons if NATO enters Ukraine to help, which was never on the table anyway
He isn't predictable for quite a few days already.

Only time will tell when and how this madness ends up.
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Old 24.02.2022, 23:52
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

I am still getting text messages and emails from UA. Surprising this has not been shut down.
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Old 25.02.2022, 00:09
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Morale is one thing - but tactical finesse, training, supply lines, discipline and endurance as well as weaponry is another thing.

It’s good that Germany sent those 5000 helmets - they’ll need them soon enough.


Both sides‘ soldiers are really fighting a war for their oligarchs. So it’s difficult to say who realizes it first and how that pans out.

Russia is clearly trying to create facts before UA can take a breath.

The plan is probably to enclose Kiev and render the government powerless via some sort of decapitation strike.
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Stop spreading misinformation. Putin "threatened " with nuclear weapons if NATO enters Ukraine to help, which was never on the table anyway
Because that’s not a bad enough threat??
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Old 25.02.2022, 00:12
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

So now RT is showing Tucker Carlson with Russian subtitles ramble about how the Democratic Party "hates" poor Vova?

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/statu...P5q2kdxJg&s=19

FOX and the GOP are in Vova's pocket.
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The plan is probably to enclose Kiev and render the government powerless via some sort of decapitation strike.
Yes. Possibly quite literally.
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Old 25.02.2022, 00:25
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

James Bonds boss the inscrutable 'C' at MI6 on twitter about their intelligence coup over uncovering Putins intensions & invasion plans.

British Spy Chief on Twitter today
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So now RT is showing Tucker Carlson with Russian subtitles ramble about how the Democratic Party "hates" poor Vova?

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/statu...P5q2kdxJg&s=19

FOX and the GOP are in Vova's pocket.
I only read the summary of this book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founda...of_Geopolitics

But it's scary how some of the points of the plan have already happened, or are happening before our eyes
  • Russia creating division inside the US (I'd look into who funds secessionist movements in the US), using social media and disinformation, installing a pro-Russian (ex)president, manipulating the alt-right "movement"
  • Helping Brexit happen, creating division inside Europe
  • Destruction of Ukraine
  • Trying to court/blackmail Germany (only partially successful)

Apparently this book is read in Russian military circles, I wouldn't dismiss it as just a "wishlist".
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