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25.02.2022, 18:05
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I know that. But they are at war, and part of this is information war. They will want to report high Russian casualties so that internal opposition in Russia grows. | | | | | well, the opposite side says that no casualties. at all. so the only reliable source of information remains UA military
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25.02.2022, 18:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I'm not sure what is worse, it's either that you are just a dull troll with nothing better to do or that you are a complete hypocrite, living in Switzerland and moaning about Western values. | | | | | Switzerland is probably the most right wing and anti-woke country in Western Europe. I'm not really sure i'm the one who should feel like a hypocrite for living here. | Quote: | |  | | | I think Ukrainians are heroic. My heart goes out to all that suffer because of this absurd war. | | | | | I feel sorry for all the Ukrainians who thought they would be offered some level of protection, although one wonders what they really expected from Western leaders who are more concerned with appearing politcally correct than they are about looking after their own constituents.
At least they got 4 years of peace under Trump.
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25.02.2022, 18:20
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | This is official confirmed numbers from UA military HQ | | | | | And propaganda wouldn’t play any role in this would it?
We should see if a few weeks once the fog of war clears
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25.02.2022, 18:21
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| | Re: Ukraine- what can WE do here in CH to help? | Quote: | |  | | | Russians held nearly 10.4 billion Swiss francs ($11.21 billion) in Switzerland in 2020, Swiss National Bank data show'' | | | | | That's not very much at all.
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25.02.2022, 18:22
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25.02.2022, 18:23
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | And propaganda wouldn’t play any role in this would it? | | | | | you talking about "no casualties"?
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25.02.2022, 18:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Just now on DW, Belarus will amend its constitution by removing the articles which proclaim it as a non-nuclear state. Chances are Putin will equip them quickly after that with nukes | | | | | I am surprised Belarus has a constitution. I am not surprised by another nuclear threat. Changes nothing, Belarus is run by Putin anyway.
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25.02.2022, 18:43
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
this is how it happens in reality 18+ | This user would like to thank vladest for this useful post: | | 
25.02.2022, 18:55
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I am surprised Belarus has a constitution. I am not surprised by another nuclear threat. Changes nothing, Belarus is run by Putin anyway. | | | | | It does unfortunately. If you look at the map, it's squeezing the Baltic states like sandwich between two nuclear-armed hostile states and opens a wide front to Poland. Moreover, even modern ballistic missiles are much more effective in shorter range due to the reduced ability of air defense systems to detect and neutralize them. Flight time of 7 min is one thing, 20 min a very different thing.
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25.02.2022, 18:57
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I am surprised Belarus has a constitution. I am not surprised by another nuclear threat. Changes nothing, Belarus is run by Putin anyway. | | | | | Maybe it has only one article that Lukashenko has unlimited power and can remain the President for an unlimited term.
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25.02.2022, 19:02
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Does this mean Vova owns more than the declared two Ladas and an apartment in St Pete?
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25.02.2022, 19:04
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Does this mean Vova owns more than the declared two Ladas and an apartment in St Pete? | | | | | probably this would mean vova still owns just 2 ladas
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25.02.2022, 19:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Does this mean Vova owns more than the declared two Ladas and an apartment in St Pete? | | | | | He's still waiting for his turn on the 2nd one, should be any year now | This user would like to thank gaburko for this useful post: | | 
25.02.2022, 19:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | you talking about "no casualties"? | | | | | No I mean Ukraine would be wise to tell its people that they have killed 1000s of soldiers. If I was a fighting age man and my capital was overrun just a few days after the first incursion began, I could use any reassurance I could get.
The same is valid for the Russian people back home. At first hint of a quagmire I expect much more unrest in Russia.
Propaganda can be more powerful than any weapon.
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25.02.2022, 19:17
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | No I mean Ukraine would be wise to tell its people that they have killed 1000s of soldiers. If I was a fighting age man and my capital was overrun just a few days after the first incursion began, I could use any reassurance I could get.
The same is valid for the Russian people back home. At first hint of a quagmire I expect much more unrest in Russia.
Propaganda can be more powerful than any weapon. | | | | | may be its something new for you and any information is "propaganda" but during the war since 2014 i dont remember that UA Military HQ published unconfirmed/false information
whatever numbers they would publish, ukrainians will not stop resistance. this is something that putin and his fans cant understand
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25.02.2022, 19:18
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Peacekeepers at work. https://twitter.com/56blackcat/statu...ddRak9Utw&s=19
[Disclaimer: A lot of dodgy clips flying around, so who knows what is real]
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25.02.2022, 19:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Should Kyiv be declared an 'Open City' ?
To avoid senseless and indiscriminate killing of civilians caught in the crossfire.
It's probably too late for Kyiv to be declared an 'Open City', particularly with the Ukrainain government arming Kyiv residents
in a last ditch stand to hold the city but the link below includes examples of 'Open Cities' during World War 2. [/URL] | | | | | The problem with that is that armed citizens fighting unformed soldiers are called "Partisans" and Partisans are not under the protection of the Geneva convention.
That means any civilian under arms who has been captured can be shot on sight without a trial. Have a look in the history books what happened to partisans in ww2.
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25.02.2022, 19:34
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The problem with that is that armed citizens fighting unformed soldiers are called "Partisans" and Partisans are not under the protection of the Geneva convention.
That means any civilian under arms who has been captured can be shot on sight without a trial. Have a look in the history books what happened to partisans in ww2. | | | | | Shows how brave they are, conflicts with your earlier claim that most in Ukraine are secret Russians and support Putin.
Meanwhile for the first time ever, the NATO Response Force has been activated as a defensive measure in response to Russia's ongoing invasion of Ukraine to help bolster NATO countries nervous about Russia's aggressive actions, they will not be fighting in Ukraine.
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25.02.2022, 19:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The problem with that is that armed citizens fighting unformed soldiers are called "Partisans" and Partisans are not under the protection of the Geneva convention.
That means any civilian under arms who has been captured can be shot on sight without a trial. Have a look in the history books what happened to partisans in ww2. | | | | | Yes, Putin has so far shown great respect to international agreements and has been particularly interested in legal aspects of his actions.
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25.02.2022, 19:37
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Meanwhile for the first time ever, the NATO Response Force has been activated as a defensive measure in response to Russia's ongoing invasion of Ukraine to help bolster NATO countries nervous about Russia's aggressive actions, they will not be fighting in Ukraine. | | | | | They'd better do something - Russia is sending in Chechen death squads. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...officials.html |
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