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25.02.2022, 21:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | good to know nato countries tax dollars are hard at work | | | | | From your link " They can be launched from the shoulder and have been credited for destroying numerous Russian military vehicles which have been used to invade the country."
Thank you for informing us about the success of this top weapon.
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25.02.2022, 21:25
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Just the fact that Switzerland is minus 1 Corbyn moves the political scales here quite aways to the right | | | | | Yeah, I noticed he also completely ignored the 'anti-woke' part as it contradicts his whole argument | 
25.02.2022, 21:38
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Ukraine is pretty much on its own. One thing that might have deterred (but probably not stopped) Russia was if other countries were willing to fight. It was made obvious that they were not willing to do this. There's no willingness to block SWIFT, block energy or anything else that would also inconvenience Europe.
Purchases from Gazprom actually increased following the invasion (why the heck is the media parroting Putin's newspeak 'special military operation'). The stock markets are up 2% today because the sanctions ended up so weak.
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25.02.2022, 21:39
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
FWIW Formula 1 cancelled the Sochi race scheduled for next September. | Quote: |  | | | The FIA Formula 1 World Championship visits countries all over the world with a positive vision to unite people, bringing nations together.
We are watching the developments in Ukraine with sadness and shock and hope for a swift and peaceful resolution to the present situation.
On Thursday evening Formula 1, the FIA, and the teams discussed the position of our sport, and the conclusion is, including the view of all relevant stakeholders, that it is impossible to hold the Russian Grand Prix in the current circumstances. | | | | | https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...Sb8LksW0J.html
It's tempting to think how irrelevant is F1's decision until.......the local promoter uses the smallest violin in the world to tell people "don't ask for a refund, it will hurt me": | Quote: |  | | | According to the official statement released by FORMULA 1 on 25/02/2022, due to the current political situation in the world, the FIA has decided to suspend preparations for the Formula 1 World Championship round in Russia previously scheduled to be held in Sochi in September 2022 because it is impossible to hold it in the current circumstances.
The agreement between the official Russian Grand Prix promoter ANO "ROSGONKI" and FORMULA 1 is suspended due to force majeure events. The purchased tickets are not cancelled – there is no need to get refunds for them now because it is still possible that the round will take place and will be held as previously scheduled. | | | | | https://www.rosgonki.ru/en/media_cen...a-1-suspended- | 
25.02.2022, 21:41
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Why the hell not earlier. It is not these weapons were not available earlier.
Why was Poland so coy and haven't shipped armaments earlier is beyond me unless they are so low on stock themselves they feared left unprepared in case Russia made an excursion? Or were they fearing Russia's retaliation? Also the handling of the Belarus immigrant border crisis was very tame, Poland could have worked out some schemes to hurt Belarus - for example unexpected repairs to railroads or highways but they haven't. I guess it has been bullied into submission by the powerful European trading partners of Belarus.
Now, if only US and Europe dealt Iran-like embargo on Russia's oil and fuel. Hard and costly but a war is even more so. | | | | | Embargo on Russia's oil?
" Tanker Rates On Russian Crude Routes Triple, while international benchmark oil prices were soaring on Thursday, the Urals grade was offered at the deepest discount in at least 11 years—$11.60 a barrel below Dated Brent".
" Russia’s oil, [known as Urals oil], normally trades at a discount of about US$1-US$1.50 per barrel to North Sea Brent crude, but this has currently widened substantially to about US$10 because people are worried that there may be issues with payments. At the same time, shipping owners are avoiding Russian ports, freight rates involving Russia have gone up, and so have insurance rates for consignments. With around two thirds of Russian crude and products moving by ships rather than pipes, this means it’s only a matter of time before you may start to lose Russian oil from the market."
" Russia’s flagship Urals grade collapsed on the back of the Kremlin-led invasion into Europe as leading buyers of the barrels were unable to open letters of credit in Western banks to guarantee payment, with banks wary of potential sanctions."
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25.02.2022, 21:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Sunrise made all calls from/to Ukraine is free of charge  | | | | | And Swisscom.
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25.02.2022, 21:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | whatever numbers they would publish, ukrainians will not stop resistance. this is something that putin and his fans cant understand | | | | | Seems like many Ukranians are trying to esacpe: https://www.ft.com/content/46bcd8ac-...d-0cc13489f9f8
I feel sorry for the Ukrainians who are fighting an American proxy war against Russia without realising it. Especially as they’re now ordering all men from aged 18- 60 to stay and fight.
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25.02.2022, 21:54
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Seems like many Ukranians are trying to esacpe: https://www.ft.com/content/46bcd8ac-...d-0cc13489f9f8
I feel sorry for the Ukrainians who are fighting an American proxy war against Russia without realising it. Especially as they’re now ordering all men from aged 18- 60 to stay and fight. | | | | | Russian warship, ...
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25.02.2022, 21:58
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | bullshit
russia threaten Ukraine when US didnt even exists | Quote: |  | | | it. Especially as they’re now ordering all men from aged 18- 60 to stay and fight. | | | | | lie.
yes, its martial low and men 18-60 cant leave the country, but non military men dont have to fight if they dont want to
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25.02.2022, 21:58
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25.02.2022, 22:05
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Yeah, I noticed he also completely ignored the 'anti-woke' part as it contradicts his whole argument  | | | | | 'anti-woke' LOL! According to independent studies, Switzerland is one of the most liberal countries in the world, score 96/100. Or maybe you prefer this one "Central Europe’s most liberal country ranks highly for its environmental performance and overall happiness." Or this one where Switzerland is in the top eight liberal countries worldwide.
Throwing around such fact free allegations without any sources in the hope of causing a reaction is known as trolling.
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25.02.2022, 22:12
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | ..Eastern Europe is apparently treated much more as a safety belt by the West, rather than a part of the same civilization.. | | | | | Isn't this very true.
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25.02.2022, 22:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? https://newsthump.com/2022/02/23/dre...ns-in-ukraine/
Nigel Farage and his Brexit friends, far-left antisemites, ‘controversial’ radio talk-show hosts and ****-thick Twitter and EF trolls have all joined together as one to explain that it’s probably all NATO’s fault and we should all just let Russia do what it likes as it’s all quite far away and, really, Mr Putin is actually quite nice.
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25.02.2022, 22:16
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | From your link " They can be launched from the shoulder and have been credited for destroying numerous Russian military vehicles which have been used to invade the country."
Thank you for informing us about the success of this top weapon. | | | | | ok…..if thats your takeaway.
I just don’t want any of the legal money laundering to defense firms aka millitary aid
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25.02.2022, 22:26
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | https://newsthump.com/2022/02/23/dre...ns-in-ukraine/
Nigel Farage and his Brexit friends, far-left antisemites, ‘controversial’ radio talk-show hosts and ****-thick Twitter and EF trolls have all joined together as one to explain that it’s probably all NATO’s fault and we should all just let Russia do what it likes as it’s all quite far away and, really, Mr Putin is actually quite nice. | | | | | Isn't that very true.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Russian warship, ... | | | | | 13 dead.
You seem quite happy for others to pay the ultimate price for your values. Like the EU.
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25.02.2022, 22:43
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | 13 dead.
You seem quite happy for others to pay the ultimate price for your values. Like the EU. | | | | | Dead. Killed for nothing. Proud enough to give the middle finger to the oppressors, knowing they would die a minute later. I am far from happy. What gives me hope are the Ukrainian people, and to a lesser extent the answer from the West. I hope this will end with Putin meeting his Ceauscescu moment. But it could end up much worse.
My values are the same as the Ukrainians' values. And no, I am not going to Kyiv tomorrow and pick up an AK47. I know there is little that I can do - apart from upholding these values and donating to Ukraine.
You are a despicable troll and - consciously or not - defender of all what is wrong with this cynical world.
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25.02.2022, 22:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Very interesting Arena talk-show about war in Ukraine on SRF1 right now.
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25.02.2022, 22:51
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | 13 dead.
You seem quite happy for others to pay the ultimate price for your values. Like the EU. | | | | | I can post photos of dead kids, killed by russian airstrike today, but you will still claim is that they killed by EU/US/NATO whatever. in your weird world everyone guilty except putin
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25.02.2022, 22:59
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"Pornhub blocks Russian users.
Russian users who tried to go on PornHub were presented with a message saying the content is blocked along with a Ukrainian flag and a message of support to Ukraine. "
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