It is a view. But I miss the point. He says that UA would not accept offering neutrality / demilitarization. But he suggests that the West should negotiate with Russia now? About what? Pulling NATO troops out of New NATO?

I smell a rat.

So you are watching porn using a Russian IP address?

My grand-grandfathers and grandfathers were always saying after the second world war "It can't be it. This (puppet communist regimes imposed by USSR) will not last for ever. The Americans will come.."...and they came, but it took them way longer than my grandfather thought and hoped for. My father grew up with "Americans will come.." mantra.

My generation, me included, grew up with „the Americans will come“ mantra. I left USSR is 1991 and haven’t lived in modern Russia, but from what I see this mantra is pretty much alive today.

Well, my country was really happy they (together with Canadians, Brits, Polish and many more) came. But that was another war, never to be forgotten.

The genie is already out of the bottle. Too late now.
I doubt anyone was supposed to take it seriously.

Moreover, pornhub has a moral duty to keep itself open to Russia. It's probably the only pressure-release valve left to the soviets now, don't take it away!

I don't want to generalize too much, but I will try to find a comparison to explain the relationship of post-USSR countries (I'm from Poland btw.).

Russia (USSR) is like your older brother, that was abusing, beating you and stealing your toys and sweets in the past. At some point you got separated and you started to build your own life without him, even though that it's not always easy, because you carry many scars (both mental and physical).

Now, after years this brother is back and looks to get along. But you know he hasn't changed and still has his club in hand. So all you have to say to him is:
- Just f*** off, will you? I don't want your help, I'm healing myself, things start to work for me because you're not there. Go back to wherever your are, leave me alone, I don't trust your words and promises. I don't care that you're my "family". You never said sorry or regretted anything and you still don't want to do that. I have different aspirations and for me it's not about solving things with clubs now. So just f*** off and let me live my life.

That's how we feel it. The problem is - he is still a thug with the bigger club.

not clear what you are angry about

You are mistaking anger with me ridiculing the article to which you linked.

It was hardly the 'nuanced view' which you described.

I wasn't the only one who thought that too so try not to make this personal (again).

giving advises how to find couple. expensive. very

where is f&%&g membership?

Of course, my family and my country too. Being admitted to NATO was a historic moment for everybody.
EU too, although with the second one we cannot see the benefits for the moment, but of course they are and the progress is very slow, although it is still a progress.
Where would countries like Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia etc be now if we weren't part of Nato? Even so, we are still afraid.... I am personally more afraid for Moldova these days, I hope the West will be more decided to help them too, not only Ukraine.

Turkey was decided in one night

I agree with you that it won't happen, I was just thinking "aloud" with my naïve hat on

EE is corrupted, I know it from experience, we have our own battles to win to clean it up, no question. But EE is also still in an identity crisis without strong and established institutions. As such, we are in need of a role model and in the 90s we saw the "west" as infallible and morally superior. Now were seeing things a bit more realistically and start to look elsewhere.

It's a serious problem because in certain parts of EE the pro-Russian sentiment is on the rise (or at least was prior to the Ukraine invasion) as their propaganda machine is in full gear and this combined with the undermined trust in the "west" is a powerful and toxic mix.

Today, in Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Czech you see either governments or parliament represented parties which openly talk about leaving NATO and EU. This was unthinkable a decade ago, it's now reality. My hope is that the silver lining to the Ukraine crisis will be an awakening that "hell, Russia is absolutely evil! our only chance is NATO and EU" and then stop with the self-searching once and for all. It's nothing else but a civilizational choice and the west needs to understand that it IS a role model for us and their actions are very carefully watched in the east.

denazifikation needed for this guy head

hahaha lol. didnt know someone will take it serious

There will be no membership in either NATO or EU anytime soon. Let's be realistic. The West will supply plenty of weapons and other support, but that is it.

will see. i'm a bit skeptical about EU but Nato probably will happen quite soon

Well, I wouldn't be so sure about that anymore. (As a keyboard-strategist ) we still don't know Putin's endgame and the outcome of the mess could be a scenario in which he splits Ukraine in east, dominated by him and an independent west, which could then be part of a deal to be accepted into EU and NATO. I am not saying it's an ideal outcome, but it's certainly a possibility.