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05.03.2022, 19:45
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | China is no friend of Russia. China likes Russia weak enough so it can dominate the terms and get energy at reasonable conditions over land. China wants Russia strong enough to keep the US at least somewhat focused on the European front instead of fulling focusing on the Pacific. | | | | | Like with Iran, they are more frenemies than real friends. I think.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Don't know Iran's view on all of these.....? Anyone from there on EF?  | | | | | I think they're blaming the U.S.
That's the official line. The people are oppressed like the Russian people and think differently to their government - actually probably a lot more differently than the Russians do to theirs.
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05.03.2022, 20:01
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Meanwhile in Africa, Kenia, Somalia, Eritrea and Somalia, aka. Countries not known for a rich harvest, are facing famine and starvation as they import 80% of their grain from Ukraine and Russia. With the war in Ukraine and Russia effectively under blockade these countries will be in the middle of a humanitarian crisis by summer.
According to a report on B24.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I see the withdrawn announcements of fighter jet deliveries by Poland et al as testaments to that. | | | | | only announcement. noone knows was they delivered or not.
closed sky or not but today russia lost more than 10 aircrafts
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05.03.2022, 20:02
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I think they're blaming the U.S.
That's the official line. The people are oppressed like the Russian people and think differently to their government - actually probably a lot more differently than the Russians do to theirs. | | | | | I really really want to believe that. My bet is people are highly divided at best and tend to believe the official narrative at worst.
But hey, hope dies last.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Meanwhile in Africa, Kenia, Somalia, Eritrea and Somalia, aka. Countries not known for a rich harvest, are facing famine and starvation as they import 80% of their grain from Ukraine and Russia. With the war in Ukraine and Russia effectively under blockade these countries will be in the middle of a humanitarian crisis by summer.
According to a report on B24. | | | | | Indeed, overlooked commodities compared to oil and gas. I think about a third of global grains come from Russia and Ukraine.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I think they're blaming the U.S.
That's the official line. The people are oppressed like the Russian people and think differently to their government - actually probably a lot more differently than the Russians do to theirs. | | | | | Don´t think that there is a lot of coverage in Iran regarding the war. One or two snide remarks over racism in the wake of the war, but not much. https://www.tehrantimes.com/ | This user would like to thank slammer for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Don't know Iran's view on all of these.....? Anyone from there on EF?  | | | | | Iran is really quiet and trying to balance as it's at the finish line of the sanctions negotiations in Vienna in which both Russia and the US are participants.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed, overlooked commodities compared to oil and gas. I think about a third of global grains come from Russia and Ukraine. | | | | | Just had a quick look, Germany doesn´t import that much by way of cereals from Russia, but they do import almost all fertilizer from there.
Oops! Seems sanctions are a double edged sword.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Iran is really quiet and trying to balance as it's at the finish line of the sanctions negotiations in Vienna in which both Russia and the US are participants. | | | | | Quiet, I am not surprised, but still on the Ru's side, I suppose?
Perhaps they wait for Trump to win again?
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05.03.2022, 20:20
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Going on behind the scenes - surely it's obvious that US & British special forces are in some way involved in Ukraine,
as they must have arrived and advised the Ukrainians; long before the invasion began; with plenty of time to setup
OP's and semi sunken bunkers, along likely invasion routes to Kyiv, just like the British Auxiliary Units of the
Second World War.
Therefore just as Russia used 'plausible deniability' to say no one from the Russian army was fighting alongside Russian separatists in Luhansk & the Dombas and instead went onto say, they couldn't rule out that members or former members of the Russian Army hadn't volunteered their services to the break-away separatists.
Therefore it's only right that the Americans & the British shouldn't use 'the same excuse' if any ex special force members
volunteered their services to Ukraine; all in the guise that if caught, they could always pass themselves off as being British
or American volunteers that had answered Zelensky's call for an International brigade to fight alongside the regular
Ukrainian armed forces.
No wonder Liz Truss was so quick to 'give her blessing' for anyone from the UK to volunteer to join the fight
to defend Ukraine, as it plays into the excuse if they're caught.
Therefore in view of the above, I have few doubts that the 40 mile Russian convoy that's inching it's way to Kyiv with all the dread of The Death Star; is being struck by all sorts of special forces attacks alongside the Ukrainians. In cutting off their communications, interdicting the Russian supply lines, using all the 'stay behind' tactics that the BAOR had setup & refined to pounce on the rear of Soviet mechanised unit shock troops pouring over the inner German border; directing and zeroing in co-ordinates for air, artillery, mortar or RPG attacks on the military column and its supply units.
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05.03.2022, 20:22
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Quiet, I am not surprised, but still on the Ru's side, I suppose?
Perhaps they wait for Trump to win again? | | | | | They are on their own side and will seek to optimize their position in the midst of this mess.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Meanwhile in Africa, Kenia, Somalia, Eritrea and Somalia, aka. Countries not known for a rich harvest, are facing famine and starvation as they import 80% of their grain from Ukraine and Russia. With the war in Ukraine and Russia effectively under blockade these countries will be in the middle of a humanitarian crisis by summer.
According to a report on B24. | | | | | I like the neutrality of the above post. How about this one?
"Germany suffered food shortages during its occupation by allied and Soviet armies in the late forties".
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Going on behind the scenes - surely it's obvious that US & British special forces are on the ground in Ukraine,
as they arrived and remained in Ukraine, long before the invasion began;; with plenty of time to setup their
OP's and semi sunken bunkers, along likely invasion routes to Kyiv just like the British Auxiliary Units of the
Second World War.
Therefore just as Russia used 'plausible deniability' to say no one from the Russian army was fighting alongside Russian separatists in Luhansk & the Dombas and instead went onto say, they couldn't rule out that members or former members of the Russian Army hadn't volunteered their services to the break-away separatists.
Therefore it's only right that the Americans & the British shouldn't use 'the same excuse' for embedding it's special forces in Ukraine; all in the guise that if caught, they could always pass themselves off as being British or American volunteers that had answered Zelensky's call for an International brigade to fight alongside the regular Ukrainian armed forces.
No wonder Liz Truss was so quick to 'give her blessing' for anyone from the UK to volunteer to join the fight
to defend Ukraine, as it plays into the excuse if they're caught.
Therefore in view of the above, I have few doubts that the 40 mile Russian convoy that's inching it's way to Kyiv with all the dread of The Death Star; is being struck by all sorts of special forces attacks alongside the Ukrainians. In cutting off their communications, interdicting the Russian supply lines, using all the 'stay behind' tactics that the BAOR had setup & refined to pounce on the rear of Soviet mechanised unit shock troops pouring over the inner German border; directing and zeroing in co-ordinates for air, artillery, mortar or RPG attacks on the military column and its supply units. | | | | | I really don't know what you are rambling about here - but let me assure you this "Death Star" is out of fuel, out of food and out of morale.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Going on behind the scenes - surely it's obvious that US & British special forces are on the ground in Ukraine, | | | | | The fallen Russian "tourists" aka little green people - I've heard their families had hard time getting a fallen soldier benefits.
Now think about such presumed Western operatives. A few CIA guys - a few unnamed stars on the memorial wall in Langley. But regular soldier deaths or benefits aren't that easily stripped or hidden like in Russia.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
As we are not in NATO, nor the EU, now is the time to send our mostly unused fighters to Ukraine.
And maybe some of the nukes that we don't officially have.
Win-win.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I really don't know what you are rambling about here - but let me assure you this "Death Star" is out of fuel, out of food and out of morale. | | | | | Which suggets special forces & the resistance played their part in making it so, talking of The Death Star,
you probably know about the Lenin statue that was remoulded to be remounted as The Darth Vader
statue in Odessa.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Which suggets special forces & the resistance played their part in making it so, talking of The Death Star, you probably
know about the Lenin statue that was remolded to be remounted as The Darth Vader statue in Odessa. | | | | | No and no.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I like the neutrality of the above post. How about this one?
"Germany suffered food shortages during its occupation by allied and Soviet armies in the late forties". | | | | | No, it just shows how intertwined modern society has become, you can´t punish one without injuring someone else.
By the way the US redirected MRE´s that were no longer needed for a land war in Japan to Germany within the first post war year. You know them as CARE packages. However the largest contingent on food supplies came from the Schwedenspeisungen, then there was the British Schulspeisungen which started almost as soon as the bullets stopped flying.
Also the Quakers sent supplies to Germany as did the Swiss.
People forget this part of history for some reason. But it meant that although the Germans went hungry shortages were local and not a fixture.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Which suggets special forces & the resistance played their part in making it so, talking of The Death Star,
you probably know about the Lenin statue that was remoulded to be remounted as The Darth Vader
statue in Odessa. | | | | | Like it or Not - Shedding it's Communist past, Odessa converts Lenin statue into a monument for Darth Vader | This user would like to thank John William for this useful post: | |
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