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12.03.2022, 09:30
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | God forbid Russia bombs one of the U.S funded biochemical weapons research labs and releases another biochemical weapon causing yet another pandemic. Just what Klaus Schwab would want. Wasn't Putin a WEF young global leader? Did he go rouge or is this part of the plan? | | | | | Oh you're back again? Pathetic.
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12.03.2022, 09:38
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Oh you're back again? Pathetic. | | | | | Sleeper cell just woke up after winter hibernation?   | The following 5 users would like to thank gaburko for this useful post: | | 
12.03.2022, 10:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry......why do you write this BS here? Haven't you got a better place on Truth Social or whatever? | | | | | “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
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12.03.2022, 10:48
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry......why do you write this BS here? Haven't you got a better place on Truth Social or whatever? | | | | | I wrote it because it is 100% true. Do yourself a favor and look it up. | Quote: | |  | | | Are we in kindergarten? Because it certainly feels like it the way some of you behave. | | | | | 100% agree. This place has turned into a geriatric kindergarten whose remaining members (myself excluded) are more akin to close minded backwood bigots.
God forbid somone brings up a point that goes against the M.I.C funded MSM narrative.
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12.03.2022, 10:54
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I wrote it because it is 100% true. Do yourself a favor and look it up.
100% agree. This place has turned into a geriatric kindergarten whose remaining members (myself excluded) are more akin to close minded backwood bigots.
God forbid somone brings up a point that goes against the M.I.C funded MSM narrative. | | | | | Yet you still keep coming back.
Do yourself a service and steer clear of this geriatric kindergarten.
How old are you btw?
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12.03.2022, 11:45
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
bulk of russian forces reported to be ~25km outside of kiev. seems like a lot of 'experts' misjudged the situation.
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12.03.2022, 12:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Good interview with Julia Ioffe from the latest Frontline documentary about Putin. The interviews from the 2017 documentary are also worth watching. https://youtu.be/kSNo2FPQDQw
(Tried embedding the video directly, but didn't work)
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12.03.2022, 13:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | bulk of russian forces reported to be ~25km outside of kiev. seems like a lot of 'experts' misjudged the situation. | | | | | It is increasingly difficult to understand what the Russian strategy actually is. The initial blitzkrieg capture-the-flag push didn’t withstand the first contact. Followed by a pause and now reverting to what they know works. The Grozny strategy of destroying everything in your path.
But what does the destruction of the Ukraine actually gain them? To me it’s obvious that their best result would be an occupied land where the remaining locals are determined to throw the bums out. Draining resources and their young men for many years.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | bulk of russian forces reported to be ~25km outside of kiev. seems like a lot of 'experts' misjudged the situation. | | | | | Enlighten us with your analysis.
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12.03.2022, 14:04
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It is increasingly difficult to understand what the Russian strategy actually is. | | | | | If you don't know your strategy, your opponents will certainly not know it too   | The following 5 users would like to thank gaburko for this useful post: | | 
12.03.2022, 14:42
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | If you don't know your strategy, your opponents will certainly not know it too    | | | | | The Art of War.... | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
12.03.2022, 15:39
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It is increasingly difficult to understand what the Russian strategy actually is. | | | | | Seemingly the same as for Afghanistan. Get bogged down for years and then finally give up and go home.
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12.03.2022, 15:53
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Seeing media reports that the Russians ate attempting to recruit mercenaries from the middle east.
I hope the realise that the maximum temperatures in the Ukraine rarely exceed 0C. | | | | | the middle east? Most likely from Syria where they proved to be better at running away from ISIS than fighting them.
After seven years the Russian military is still bogged down in Syria, claimed as recently as a couple of weeks ago they were bombing chicken farms.
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12.03.2022, 15:57
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Enlighten us with your analysis. | | | | | his analysis: russia is superior, UA will be defeated. hooray for putin, for stalin
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12.03.2022, 15:59
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It is increasingly difficult to understand what the Russian strategy actually is. The initial blitzkrieg capture-the-flag push didn’t withstand the first contact. Followed by a pause and now reverting to what they know works. The Grozny strategy of destroying everything in your path.
But what does the destruction of the Ukraine actually gain them? To me it’s obvious that their best result would be an occupied land where the remaining locals are determined to throw the bums out. Draining resources and their young men for many years. | | | | | In a country of over 40 million people, the Russians simply do not have enough infantry to take the cities by house to house fighting, the more they try to destroy cities then the bigger their ammunition resupply problems.
Looks evermore like they will just get bogged down while they murder many more civilians without any strategic successes.
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12.03.2022, 16:34
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Looks evermore like they will just get bogged down while they murder many more civilians without any strategic successes. | | | | | Which also aligns with the "classic" russian military mentality: lets terrorize the civilians as much as possible to put pressure on Zelenski to surrender and give us what we want. The kremlin despots are nothing else but despicable lowlifes.
My concern is that currently they target civilian infrastructure like hospitals as a strong suggestion to Zelenski "look what we're willing to do, this is just a taste of what we can truly unleash"
My grandfather was telling me stories how they were hiding women, food and alcohol when the russkies came to "save" Eastern Europe. They were constantly drunk and constantly harassing the civilians.
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12.03.2022, 17:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Apparently they are now targeting mosques. That will make them lots of friends. | 
12.03.2022, 17:16
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently they are now targeting mosques. That will make them lots of friends.  | | | | | Fake news! Don't forget that according to Lavrov Russia 'did not attack Ukraine'
Soon we'll probably all see that the soviets are merely trying to help while the Ukrainians are committing mass suicides.
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12.03.2022, 17:21
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently they are now targeting mosques. That will make them lots of friends.  | | | | | I think we will have lots of news that need confirmed by more neutral or objective sources...it is really frustrating not to know what's really happening there. A lot of atrocities have happened but I feel like we are "bombarded" with too many things for the moment. It could be true, it could be "fake news".
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12.03.2022, 18:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Their is a lot of fake news out there; You need to read several articles and draw your own conclusions.
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