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Listening to some old Vysotsky stuff, but my Russian is too poor to get the subtleties. Could someone proficient share some songs that would be fitting to the situation? Thanks.

PS: For some reason, I have a craving for the Russian soul ...
Maybe start with this one
https://youtu.be/W9wrBX6S1yM
For me it sits really well with what happens in Ukraine. Like an anthem of hope in that sick situation.
Because "the road is dark" as Johnny sings, but "one sunny morning" I hope to visit Kiev as a tourist. Hope it will happen soon.

https://youtu.be/2GZ60fcfBaA This one fits perfectly. The funny thing - I got to know about this one exactly in Ukraine (Lopatyn) when I was working by the renovation of Polish church, ten years ago.

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Old 13.03.2022, 23:30
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Not quite what I was after, but I appreciated that song. Thanks.
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Old 13.03.2022, 23:37
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https://youtu.be/2GZ60fcfBaA This one fits also. The funny thing - I got to know about this one exactly in Ukraine (Lopatyn) when I was working by the renovation of Polish church, ten years ago.
This version is much much better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOdgvpDFfhc

Here is one of the most brilliant songs of Vysotskiy. It's about the psychiatric hospital (as an allegory to USSR) but is mentioned a lot in the last 10 years comparing Russia to this hospital.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsRZvWfcFGU
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Old 13.03.2022, 23:38
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Ah, and trucks and trains with goods to Russia pass unabated through EU/Belarus border. No panic...
If you were in charge of getting those invoices paid I'd bet you wouldn't joke about it. If you're in that position, I pay the beers, March 27 or next time we meet in ZH
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Old 14.03.2022, 00:06
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

If true then the Russian military supply situation must be much worse than rumoured.

Edit: Maybe their forces are really about to collapse.

Thinking about it, getting Chinese weapons the Russians are not familiar with or trained on would not be much help.
It is different for the Ukraine who are getting weapons they are familiar with and have used in exercises.
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There are reports that the brutal Chechnyan warlord Ramzan Kadyrov is in Ukraine now alongside Russian forces https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...kiy-putin-live

I hope that they make a point of hunting down and killing this mofo in a way that befits him.
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There are reports that the brutal Chechnyan warlord Ramzan Kadyrov is in Ukraine now alongside Russian forces https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...kiy-putin-live

I hope that they make a point of hunting down and killing this mofo in a way that befits him.
There are some people who need to die, this bugger is one of them.
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If true then the Russian military supply situation must be much worse than rumoured.

Edit: Maybe their forces are really about to collapse.

Thinking about it, getting Chinese weapons the Russians are not familiar with or trained on would not be much help.
It is different for the Ukraine who are getting weapons they are familiar with and have used in exercises.
meanwhile, in the real world, Russian troops are now reportedly ~15km outside of Kiev. also noticeably less propoganda about sensationalist Ukranian victories being made. reality probably beginning to sink in.
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And the sooner the west realises it, the better. Would have been the best if they realised it in 2008 or earlier, but better later than never.
The West or rather some corrupt politicians were too busy to make business with Russia, and the general idea was that if everyone wins and everyone improves their living standards we will have peace. The West was naive. The West has waken up now but they hesitate to help Ukraine more for the moment because the demented dwarf in the Kremlin behaves like the scumbag of a bully in a schoolyard that he is and keeps threatening everyone who stands up against him that he'll rape their sister and their mother too.
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Old 14.03.2022, 08:50
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meanwhile, in the real world, Russian troops are now reportedly ~15km outside of Kiev. also noticeably less propoganda about sensationalist Ukranian victories being made. reality probably beginning to sink in.
You mean you're happy that more civilian deaths and more civilian infrastructure destruction will follow?

The reality in the real world is quite different. Russia has already lost. It's army has been proven to be incompetent, politically and economically it's a s$itshow in Russia, it's isolation has never EVER been more pronounced and Putin has no good options whatever happens from now on and things will only get worse for Russia on every front.
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Old 14.03.2022, 08:55
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Russia MOD briefings now available in English, sort of. Bizarre.

https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...41rJtm1Yg&s=19
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Old 14.03.2022, 08:57
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You mean you're happy that more civilian deaths and more civilian infrastructure destruction will follow?

The reality in the real world is quite different. Russia has already lost. It's army has been proven to be incompetent, politically and economically it's a s$itshow in Russia, it's isolation has never EVER been more pronounced and Putin has no good options whatever happens from now on and things will only get worse for Russia on every front.
True. Nothing of this will help Ukraine though in the short to mid term.
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You mean you're happy that more civilian deaths and more civilian infrastructure destruction will follow?

The reality in the real world is quite different. Russia has already lost. It's army has been proven to be incompetent, politically and economically it's a s$itshow in Russia, it's isolation has never EVER been more pronounced and Putin has no good options whatever happens from now on and things will only get worse for Russia on every front.
im not happy for anyone to die and would have preferred that there wouldn't have to be a war to begin with and i hope Zelensky stops urging citizens to go die in an imo unwinnable war.
you might be correct regarding russia but you may want to keep an eye on the other thread regarding possible blowback from sanction, i don't know how long they will be able to last. also, depending on how much territory russia takes, they may use this to bargain with. i doubt too many western leaders are willing risk their cushy lives for Ukraine, unfortunately.
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Old 14.03.2022, 10:23
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True. Nothing of this will help Ukraine though in the short to mid term.
Of course it won't and I wasn't implying it. I was merely responding to the weird gloat of vushka who seems to be happy that the soviet army is making further incursions into the cities.

A very weird "setup" in Moscow where the "interviewer" seem to be part of OMON and people who respond to him get arrested immediately. The first woman had a sign with the simple piece of paper with "two words" written on it and got carried away.
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i doubt too many western leaders are willing risk their cushy lives for Ukraine, unfortunately.
It's a thin line to tread when you're up against a psychopath with a nuclear option and a mainly brainwashed population.
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Listening to some old Vysotsky stuff, but my Russian is too poor to get the subtleties. Could someone proficient share some songs that would be fitting to the situation? Thanks.

PS: For some reason, I have a craving for the Russian soul ...
This was played at the March in Zürich

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A possible way out
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...kraine/627051/
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Mind your step into reality...

Scott Ritter, Former US Marine Corps Intelligence Officer... Is he in KGB now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYm8pDrIXBg
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Mind your step into reality...

Scott Ritter, Former US Marine Corps Intelligence Officer... Is he in KGB now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYm8pDrIXBg
Considering he consistently writes for Russian State Media, I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt.
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Old 14.03.2022, 12:35
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Help us through the paywall pls.
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