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15.03.2022, 10:51
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | that's right, its been going on since 2014. | | | | | Even your trolling is running out of steam! Ask the soviets to send you new bullet points, these are quite pathetic.
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15.03.2022, 10:52
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15.03.2022, 10:59
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | it is proof that they have in the past shelled residential areas and killed citizens.
what do you call the logic that suggests that now they are somehow above or incapable of committing war crimes?
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15.03.2022, 11:11
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Another report of another soviet general killed in Ukraine. I will not post the twitter link as it's a gruesome photo, but if true, this would be the 4th General.
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15.03.2022, 11:11
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | it is proof that they have in the past shelled residential areas and killed citizens.
what do you call the logic that suggests that now they are somehow above or incapable of committing war crimes? | | | | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man | The following 3 users would like to thank MajorGrubert for this useful post: | | 
15.03.2022, 11:20
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | That's what you get from propagandists. They hope to muddy the waters. "Fault on both sides".
Of course everyone is well aware that there will be things that Ukraine do that are fundamentally wrong. (There's a war on, it happens). None of it, past or present, justifies the invasion of Ukraine instigated by Putin. His motives are clear (he been quite explicit), his original plan (in tatters) is clear.
This is what the propagandists and Putin's Trolls want people to not notice. So keep saying loud and clear.
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15.03.2022, 11:33
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
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15.03.2022, 11:35
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
i posted a news article and wrote 'allegedly'. i never suggested it was definitely Ukraine who did it. but it is interesting to see that this event gets so scrutinised yet other events reported from Ukraine are accepted as gospel immediately.
more than 20 civilians including a child were killed with a missile in a residential area. yet i still haven't seen any media headlines or condemnation from western leaders.
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15.03.2022, 12:03
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Another report of another soviet general killed in Ukraine. I will not post the twitter link as it's a gruesome photo, but if true, this would be the 4th General. | | | | | 5th
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15.03.2022, 12:28
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | This lady is an ex-propagandist. She published a video in which she stated that she was silent for many years while many bad things were happening but cannot be silent anymore. Now hew FB is beeing flooded with comments, in which people thank her for her courage. A new comment appears every second. | | | | | Have seen an interview on YouTube with passers-by on a street in Moscow. 2 elderly folks and 5 or 6 youngish ones. The elderly were talking about a special operation and how Putin knows what he does, and how Russia is a great country etc etc the usual nationalistic shebang but the younger ones, with only one exception, were all of the opinion that this is not really a special operation and were against war and also worried about the negative consequences on their lives and were sure this will be more than just some luxury brands closing their business over there.
There is hope that people will wake up and start questioning Putin and the system's actions.
(maybe I am too optimistic and some urbanites from Moscow are not really representative but I truly hope there are many more people like them, brave enough to express their opinions)
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15.03.2022, 13:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | there is no live sessions on ru TV | | | | | It was live! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...mpaign=15-3-22 | This user would like to thank robBob for this useful post: | | 
15.03.2022, 14:03
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | there was no live streams since 2015 and suddenly its live...allright
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15.03.2022, 14:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
On a different note, a U2 spy plane landed in the U.K. yesterday after completing a surveillance mission.
I find it amazing that this plane is still in active use after entering service nearly seventy years ago. Link | This user would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post: | | 
15.03.2022, 14:54
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | On a different note, a U2 spy plane landed in the U.K. yesterday after completing a surveillance mission.
I find it amazing that this plane is still in active use after entering service nearly seventy years ago. Link | | | | | Why does it only have one landing wheel?
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15.03.2022, 15:00
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | there was no live streams since 2015 and suddenly its live...allright | | | | | An anti-war protester interrupted a live news bulletin on Russia's state TV Channel One on Monday, holding up a sign behind the studio presenter and shouting slogans denouncing the war in Ukraine.
Do you have any evidence this wasn't live? Any evidence that Russian TV has had no live broadcasts since 2015?
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15.03.2022, 15:02
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Why does it only have one landing wheel? | | | | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txVHB8k0rTI
(Note: I didn't even know either  )
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15.03.2022, 15:02
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Why does it only have one landing wheel? | | | | | It has two wheels but one behind the other, like a bike.
Claimed to be weight saving.
Lots of videos around of them landing, always with that chase car.
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15.03.2022, 15:11
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It has two wheels but one behind the other, like a bike.
Claimed to be weight saving.
Lots of videos around of them landing, always with that chase car. | | | | | It needs the chase car as because of the plane's long nose and generally bad visibility, the pilot cannot see the runway when he is landing so he gets verbal feedback from a pilot in the chase car.
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15.03.2022, 15:25
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | On a different note, a U2 spy plane landed in the U.K. yesterday after completing a surveillance mission.
I find it amazing that this plane is still in active use after entering service nearly seventy years ago. Link | | | | | Russia is probably too big for drones - and the U2 is a bit more flexible.
Maybe they'll dust-off one of the SR71s again?
Though they'll have to call a couple of pilots out of retirement for that one, too.
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15.03.2022, 16:09
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Why does it only have one landing wheel? | | | | | That’s all it needs.
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