yes for that.. first

They should get rid of their insignia, resupply with modern kit and become ""little green men" or "вежливые люди" in Russia.

I agree. But how should we call what Russian army is doing now?

For the more sensitive ones, if you don't like the word "genocide" how about Pogrom?

Nazis fighting nazis? Der Führer would be so confused

"Nazi brigades"? You really have swallowed Putin's propaganda.
The only Nazi Paramilitaries I know of fighting in Ukrain are the Serbians in the Jovan Sevic Unit supporting the separatists in the East.
Anyway, positive news that you now believe the Ukrainians will beat the Russians and Zelensky will still be in charge.

Meanwhile rumours that Belarus railwaymen have sabotaged the line to Ukraine so blocking supplies to the Russian army. The alternative rumour is that the Russians have run out of supplies to supply their army and are blaming Belarus railwaymen.

Also rumours that so many Belarus soldiers have joined the defence of Ukraine that the Ukrain army now has a full battalion of Belarus soldiers. The parallel rumour is that Belarus president Lukashenko is frightened of ordering his army to attack Ukraine in case they turn on him and overthrow him.

Rumors, rumors, rumored. Read up on the Asow brigades, they are your 100% pukka gen, dyed in the wool, literal neo nazis. This isn‘t Putinpropaganda, you can check this... if you want.
I‘m not stopping you, get back when you are finished.
Seems that they have ties and have been financed by neo’s in Germany and elsewhere.

I suppose you mean the Azov battalion who are not a paramilitary, Azov was incorporated into the National Guard of Ukraine in November 2014, and since then all members have been official soldiers serving in the National Guard (do try to keep up at the back of the class). You used the plural "brigades" but there is only one of them.

Currently, the Azov battalion is doing a great job of defending Mariupol against the Russians and even managed a successful counterattack on Friday.

Actually no, there are more than just the Asow Brigade, there is the Donbas brigade, the Kyiv corps, the , the Ukraine voluntary corps and ironically the so called „Green Brigade“ and they are not to be confused with volenteer forces. I am keeping up at the back, that’s why I am writing this.

I also think that as the bunch of armchair warriors that we are we really need to take a step back and stop looking at this conflict as „Russia BOO, Ukraine YEAH“ in black and white. In reality, as always, it‘s Not that simple.

Really? For me invading an independent country is simple, an act of war.

I'm afraid in this case it is quite simple.

Where I agree is that the UA success stories are over-hyped and their real situation is overall still much better than anyone would have thought, but they are not yet winning either.

It‘s also the Asov Corps that were incorporated, not the Asow brigade

I don't know much about this group, but according to Wikipedia they are 900 men strong. UA has a military of 250.000 plus. So even if they are suspect, what difference does this make in the wider picture?

Don't forget "and murdering civilians by the thousand".

BTW, all those people who were so concerned here about US drones killing civilians have gone very quiet about the much higher civilian daily death toll in Ukraine.

This conflict is absolutely black and white for the whole civilized world. It's the war between good and evil.

I was thinking about that.
Here, on our forum, are also people writing about big schemes from US side (how it was tailored) and trying to find reasons for Putin's actions. How it cannot be fully his fault and responsibility.

We're almost all expats, we chose deliberately where we live now.
Now, noting the above, I have a simple question for that "Not fully Putin's fault" part of our forum:

Why are you living in "the West"? Why not Moscow, Siberia, Vladivostok?
For sure there must be some reason. Come on, I'm really curious, share with us.

Just saw this YT video today which goes a bit into India's neutral position:

Well... I wouldn't say true good vs evil per se (Western democracies have done plenty of evil crap in their time) , but definitely a war vs the ideals of 'mostly free' democratic regimes vs oppressive dictatorial regimes.

In the end if the world has to have one that survives any kind of power struggle, I sure as hell want it to be the democratic ones. Putin and almost any other strongman dictators are living proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely and the good thing about democratic countries is that kind of stuff 'usually' does not have chance to fester before someone new comes along.

It's the old story about hypocrisy. In some cases it's about (frustrated) people wanting to be against something, not necessarily against the West. But if the opportunity arrises, they place themselves on the losing side of the argument and even on losing side of the history just for the heck of it. The professional contrarians.

What's your point? There are neo-nazis groups and their paraphernalia in almost all countries, Russia included.
Here, take a look if you are curious to dig deeper in other places besides the so-called wikipedia
"Russia for Russians"
https://www.cidob.org/en/publication...a_for_russians

Read more about the "conservative forum"
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/w...in-russia.html
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-far-r.../26915204.html
I can find more links but I can't help anyone who doesn't want to see.
Maybe the "Ukrainians are nazis and Russians are their liberators from nazism" is the only thing some want to accept and what can one do about it on EF? Quarrel with folks who can't change their opinion even when presented facts? Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.

How about "Russia, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO2, Ukraine "YEAH! BUT WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT PERFECT AND HAVE DONE BAD THINGS"

You know, back in the 1940's it was German BOO, Aliies YEAH. Despite Dresden.