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28.03.2022, 14:37
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | there are *allegedly* videos coming out of ukranians brutally torturing russian pows and filming it. i guess it must also be russian propoganda? | | | | | From today’s lead story in the London Times midday edition: Other key developments:
• A senior adviser to Zelensky promised an investigation into a video purportedly showing Ukrainian soldiers knee-capping Russian prisoners. | The following 5 users would like to thank AbFab for this useful post: | | 
28.03.2022, 15:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
CNN: Ukraine promises "immediate investigation" after video surfaces of soldiers shooting Russian prisoners | Quote: |  | | | Video has surfaced showing what appear to be Ukrainian soldiers shooting men who are apparently Russian prisoners in the knees during an operation in the Kharkiv region.
On the almost six-minute-long video, the Ukrainian soldiers are heard saying they have captured a Russian reconnaissance group operating from Olkhovka, a settlement in Kharkiv roughly 20 miles from the Russian border.
Asked about the video, a senior presidential advisor, Oleksiy Arestovych, said in an interview posted on YouTube Sunday: "The government is taking this very seriously, and there will be an immediate investigation. We are a European army, and we do not mock our prisoners. If this turns out to be real, this is absolutely unacceptable behavior."
In a separate briefing, Arestovych said, "We treat prisoners in accordance with the Geneva Convention, whatever your personal emotional motives."
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It's unclear which Ukrainian unit may have been involved. The soldiers speak in a mixture of Ukrainian and Russian with Ukrainian accents.
... | | | | | Meanwhile, from The Independent: Russian soldiers raping women in Ukraine, MP says | This user would like to thank Reb77Br for this useful post: | | 
28.03.2022, 15:28
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | What's the lie here? | | | | | well azov batallion are listed on wikipedia as being a neo-nazi group so its a bit strange they claim that they despise nazism.
they also released a video (from their verified account) of them dipping bullets into pig fat for chechen muslim soldiers.
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28.03.2022, 15:43
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | From today’s lead story in the London Times midday edition: Other key developments:
• A senior adviser to Zelensky promised an investigation into a video purportedly showing Ukrainian soldiers knee-capping Russian prisoners. | | | | | Also in The Times. Widow ‘raped in front of child by Russian soldiers’
(She hadn't been a widow for more than a few minutes. Allegedly the soldiers had just shot her husband).
So far no one from the Russian government has promised investigations.
The truth will out.
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28.03.2022, 15:53
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | they also released a video (from their verified account) of them dipping bullets into pig fat for chechen muslim soldiers. | | | | | Hint: if they stay home they won't catch these bullets.
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28.03.2022, 16:03
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Also in The Times. Widow ‘raped in front of child by Russian soldiers’
(She hadn't been a widow for more than a few minutes. Allegedly the soldiers had just shot her husband).
So far no one from the Russian government has promised investigations.
The truth will out. | | | | |
And that is, dear kids, what makes all the difference.
Russia will never admit they did something wrong. They will never conduct honest investigation against their own deeds. Never introduce for example Multi-Kulti (like Germany did) to avoid repeating mistakes of the past.
They are always right. Never regret anything.
Rape, murder, war crimes. These are no mistakes.
It was like that 100 years ago and it is until today.
No wonder the whole world is tired of their sh**. US president seems also tired of swallowing their sh** with nice, diplomatic words.
Fun part:
Special military operation, where the soldiers were expected to be greeted with flowers. And today Russia shares this:
"- Since the beginning of the special military operation, 308 (Ukrainian) unmanned aerial vehicles, 1,713 tanks and combat vehicles, 170 rocket launchers, 715 artillery and mortar systems and 1,557 other military vehicles have been destroyed," Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov enumerated.
Until today Putin says everything is going according to the plan. So - his soldiers are greeted with flowers, but nonetheless needed to destroy over 1700 tanks?
How one's brain must be unglued from the skull to expect that someone will believe that?
Seriously, these three contradicting informations (flowers, destroyed tanks, everything according to the plan) are available to Russian people, published by national media. Are they just so passive, accepting without problem even contradicting infos? Beyond saving? Can someone explain that?
Again - the world is just tired of their sh**.
The question for the road:
How do you treat a recidivist bandit, that is not regretting or admitting anything?
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28.03.2022, 16:45
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Hint: if they stay home they won't catch these bullets. | | | | | Not sure what's worse in vushka's opinion- the bullets or the pig fat! ... so I'd reformulate: if the stay home they won't catch the pig fat, 'cause obviously they should be worried about that not about bullets....!
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28.03.2022, 17:46
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the "tortures" of poor innocent ru soldiers already criticized by frame analysis of the video
also there is a leakage of ru defence order to create such kind of fakes
further development of Ovsiannikova case: https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/...C4gVhY1kg&s=08
now tell me it wasnt fsb spec ops
FCC calls Russian Kaspersky Lab a 'national security' risk https://appleinsider.com/articles/22...-security-risk | Quote: | |  | | | Hint: if they stay home they won't catch these bullets. | | | | | no doubt. although some other people might find such behaviour problematic. as well as their ties to neo-nazism. | Quote: | |  | | |
no doubt. although some other people might find such behaviour problematic. as well as their ties to neo-nazism.
| | | | | i didnt tell that
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28.03.2022, 19:55
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28.03.2022, 22:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The question for the road:
How do you treat a recidivist bandit, that is not regretting or admitting anything? | | | | | Kick the shit out of him.
So he never, ever comes back. | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
29.03.2022, 08:56
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | suppose it not a security risk for CH? | 
29.03.2022, 08:58
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? https://twitter.com/tass_agency/stat...bE1mNz6Lg&s=08
so, everyone speaks russian will be considered as russia citizen and gonna be liberated | 
29.03.2022, 09:18
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Not just that, but taken to Russia and forbidden to leave within two years. And then only with Russian passports. Ethnic cleansing anyone?
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29.03.2022, 11:05
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | nooooooooo, St Moritz and Crans Montana too?
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | if they liberated all the russian speakers in ukriane back to the russian mainland, then this conflict could be over quickly.
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29.03.2022, 11:22
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | And that is, dear kids, what makes all the difference.
Russia will never admit they did something wrong. They will never conduct honest investigation against their own deeds. Never introduce for example Multi-Kulti (like Germany did) to avoid repeating mistakes of the past. | | | | | the russian federation is a very multicultural country already so they probably see no need to replace their own people. | Quote: | |  | | | No wonder the whole world is tired of their sh**. US president seems also tired of swallowing their sh** with nice, diplomatic words.
Again - the world is just tired of their sh**. | | | | | maybe this is true if you consider the west to be the "whole world". china and india alone make up ~35% of the worlds population.
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29.03.2022, 11:27
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Not just that, but taken to Russia and forbidden to leave within two years. And then only with Russian passports. Ethnic cleansing anyone? | | | | | I don't get the logic?
They are spreading all this propaganda in Russia about the "special operation" then they want to import thousands of people who know the truth of what is/was happening and will spread them around Russia to ensure many people hear their version.
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29.03.2022, 11:28
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I don't get the logic?
They are spreading all this propaganda in Russia about the "special operation" then they want to import thousands of people who know the truth of what is/was happening and will spread them around Russia to ensure many people hear their version. | | | | | Re-education perhaps?
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | if they liberated all the russian speakers in ukriane back to the russian mainland, then this conflict could be over quickly. | | | | | dream on
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