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30.03.2022, 17:23
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | If you got a separate ban for that specific post (you were not clear about that, sorry) then I would agree that it seems excessive (at least on the surface). | | | | | its not excessive, it is simply unwarranted. people should not be banned for stating facts, however uncomfortable. | Quote: | |  | | | However, Putin using that one Azov unit that has white supremacist idealogy as an excuse to invade and denazify the whole of Ukraine is obviously propaganda BS. | | | | | i agree, and when putin joins EF and states that then they can ban him, as i never said that.
once again, if the mods are only interested in hearing one-sided posts and will ban people for opposing opinions then they should really clarify that.
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30.03.2022, 17:44
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | once again, if the mods are only interested in hearing one-sided posts | | | | | Maybe you didn't notice but the whole civilized world took a certain side in this conflict. And most of the diplomats from the UN Human Rights Council left the room when Lavrov started speaking, because they knew that he would be saying the same bullsh*t once again. What is there left to hear about "8 years of bombing of L/DNR"? Every person who has Internet access can compare photos from Donetsk and Luhansk, which were bombed for 8 years, with photos from Maryupil, Kharkiv or Irpin.
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30.03.2022, 17:53
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Come on, admit it. You were pissing your pants laughing when writing this. | | | | | i dont see how one can spread this ru propaganda bs with poker face | The following 3 users would like to thank vladest for this useful post: | | 
30.03.2022, 17:55
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | i dont see how one can spread this ru propaganda bs with poker face  | | | | | Or maybe he has a crush on Maria Zakharova.
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30.03.2022, 17:56
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The rouble’s astonishing recovery | | | | | get some rubbles and go buy some dollars | 
30.03.2022, 18:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | You mixed up the sequence. At first, Ukraine violated its obligations and kept bombing civilians, and only then Russia began to support compatriots abroad. | | | | | you spreading lie here
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30.03.2022, 18:07
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Or maybe he has a crush on Maria Zakharova. | | | | | or drinks same moonshine
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30.03.2022, 18:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Yet again, it is proven that the Russians lie. Putin should stop behaving like a child, spanked and sent to bed without his supper.
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30.03.2022, 18:18
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Should NAT send you to Ukraine for real life devastating experiences?  | | | | | at least he can check out who exactly bombing civilians there | The following 2 users would like to thank vladest for this useful post: | | 
30.03.2022, 19:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | at least he can check out who exactly bombing civilians there  | | | | | so when human rights watch reported that ukranians were shelling citizens in donetsk what was that? fake news or russian propaganda? https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/...ling-civilians | This user would like to thank vushka for this useful post: | | 
30.03.2022, 19:32
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | And now they take revenge?
Is this what we're seeing now?
If you think you can rectify one evil with another one....
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30.03.2022, 19:41
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | And now they take revenge? 
Is this what we're seeing now? | | | | |
No, now Donetsk is preventing the ground operation that Ukraine was preparing. | Quote: | |  | | | If you think you can rectify one evil with another one....
| | | | | At least you agree now that Ukrainian regime is an evil
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30.03.2022, 19:43
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | No, now Donetsk is preventing the ground operation that Ukraine was preparing. | | | | | Which operation? Invade Russia?
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30.03.2022, 19:45
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | And now they take revenge? 
Is this what we're seeing now?
If you think you can rectify one evil with another one.... | | | | | i don't know. you will have to ask putin that. i was just refuting this idea that ukranians are above committing war crimes against citizens.
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30.03.2022, 19:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Which operation? Invade Russia? | | | | | In the long term, quite possibly.
But the short-term threat of invading Donetsk alone was sufficient.
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30.03.2022, 19:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | |
At least you agree now that Ukrainian regime is an evil
| | | | | No, I didn't even imply that. Someone here was talking about war crimes in Donetsk. Some years ago. Try harder. | Quote: | |  | | | In the long term, quite possibly. | | | | | Are you freaking serious?
Wow. | Quote: | |  | | | But the short-term threat of invading Donetsk alone was sufficient. | | | | | Donetsk is still part of UA. Only Putin "recognised" this so-called republic.
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30.03.2022, 20:20
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Are you freaking serious? | | | | | Absolutely. Ukraine was pummeled by arms and Nazi ideology in order to create a threat to Russia. | Quote: | |  | | | Donetsk is still part of UA | | | | | Does that justify killing civilians for 8 years?
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30.03.2022, 20:30
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | its not excessive, it is simply unwarranted. people should not be banned for stating facts, however uncomfortable. | | | | | And... no one is. So that's nice, isn't it. | Quote: |  | | | once again, if the mods are only interested in hearing one-sided posts and will ban people for opposing opinions then they should really clarify that. | | | | | We won't, because we're not. So that's nice, isn't it. | Quote: | |  | | | i don't know. you will have to ask putin that. i was just refuting this idea that ukranians are above committing war crimes against citizens. | | | | | Anyone here thinking that the Ukrainians won't commit a few war crimes themselves?
Anyone?
Thought not.
It seems this idea is only held inside the heads of those who with to refute it.
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30.03.2022, 20:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Absolutely. Ukraine was pummeled by arms and Nazi ideology in order to create a threat to Russia. | | | | | I'm not sure that's the case, so I asked the two Russian speaking women staying with us, who are actually from Donetsk.
They said you're talking rubbish and simply repeating Kremlin lies.
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30.03.2022, 20:40
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | So you are alleging the US and UA might have wanted this war or at the minimum caused it somehow unconsciously.
Wow. | | | | | komsomolez, I don't think this is the case. I think this is pointing out that there is plenty of blame to go around. [Phil, correct me if I am wrong]
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