I disagree because I still stick to the argument that this is a proxy war.

The worst of hypocrisy I heard on the Russian channel 1 however - the people in the collective "West" do not have an access to an alternative narrative. Another argument made - Ukraine never existed as a separate country and it was created de facto by Lenin and Stalin and it of course was a mistake when we look back - even if it were true - what does this have to do with the human cost?

I am Russian by birth and Swiss by choice. I can barely read Ukrainian! The difference is not as huge as, for example, between castellano and catalan, but the very fact - Ukranian nation deserves a state of its own.

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if that were true then why can't you just explain the reason i was banned?

Says the guy defending the guy who had Moscow apartment buildings blown up while people were asleep in them in order to get elected president.

Arzhole.

If there is a need to get rid of far right, both the people of RF and US should look closer to home. Has anyone noticed that Mr. Trump has been very low key in the matters concerning Russia-Ukraine war? Food for thought.

As for the shelling - I repeat the words of those who moved from Donetsk to Russia in the past few years.
Ukraine's pumping with weapons and instructors is a fact recognized by the Americans themselves.
Am I the only one noticing that the words "propaganda" and "lies" are overused here?

On the planet where US sells strikes a deal to sell LNG to EU immediately after the war started.

We discussed this many pages ago and I am not going to repeat why this is nonsense and shows a shallow understanding of how LNG markets work.

TinyK, regarding news coverage. I think that cutting RT as well as other news channels on YouTube off was a huge mistake. People should be able to hear what the enemy is reporting. Otherwise, this kind of censorship is not better than that of the Russian government.

I wish it was that simple, but xenophobia is on the rise all over and the distain for immigrants is palpable.

Again, how do these facts justify the human cost? And please do not say collateral damage.

Disagree - everyone is entitled to own opinion. The question is - where does my right end and another person's begin?

Wow, the whole building with the opposition sleeping in it?

Where did you get that "news" from?

Where did you get yours?

I actually opened a link posted by vushka and somewhere in the article it was said that both sides i.e. insurgents and UA army were using weapons that might have went out of control. I still have to trust that particular investigation and article but am willing to make a leap of faith.
It is absolutely regrettable but not what you see today - constant, systematic killing and destruction.

You’ve already been asked to take this to Forum Support.

Please keep this thread on-topic.

The US are not a democracy. This is one of most hypocritical statements spread around in US popular culture. [insert the 99% argument here] An American acquaintance (lawyer!!!!) thought that the electoral college is the upper chamber of the legislative branch. If interested, research how and why it was created - I cannot quote sources now - the idea was to PREVENT democracy.

Dear EF members, I suggest that, for the purpose of this thread, we quote sources to the extent possible. Even if it's Telegram channels or other social media.

What has the electoral college to do with the fact that Russia meddled in the election? One can surely question the US electoral system in that it favours , but it is the oldest democracy on earth and hopefully stays around a bit longer.

hrw - facepalm
apparently - facepalm

Russian mushroom sauce doesn't count.

everyone knows, what enemy is reporting - bullshit
constantly, non stop, they producing this content to flood the common sense