The incident in Bucha was announced exactly at the moment when Zelensky verbally refused the offers made in writing in Istanbul.
There is no single statement on the date of satellite imagery. They are not available on the source site
In the detailed report of Buchi Mayor on the departure of Russian troops, nothing was said about the corpses lying on the roads. Corpses are also not visible on the filming of Ukrainian troops entering Bucha.
Satellite images and video footage from a car of only one street have been published. An extremely unlikely coincidence.

On the corpses are white bandages, the meaning of which is "I am on your side" for the Russian army
Both old and new history confirms that the killing of civilians is much more characteristic of irregular troops than of the regular army. In Bucha there were no Russian irregular troops.
Russian humanitarian packages are seen next to some corpses. It is unlikely that people were shot by those who issued these packages

Here you have it, cyclist killed in Bucha:
https://youtu.be/jkwqiNeNMfE
https://twitter.com/Koshman/status/1...GZcAenMfjefA0g

Truth, along with the plan is the first casualty of war. I can´t imagine the Ukraines killing their own people, I can imagine them using already dead bodies to confuse and cloud opinions. I can´t imagine a regular Russian army intentionally killing civilians, this isn´t the Red Army and this isn´t Prussia. I can however imagine a disorganized army under retreat being unable to difference between partisans and civilians and killing whoever they see as a threat.
We have long passed the point where "good" and "bad" run on two clear opposite lines, this isn´t a Hollywood war.

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Back in Bavaria, god´s own belly button.

Well, you suggested to wait for the results of the independent investigation. So, why mention white bandages, history and humanitarian packages in order to tell "Russian soldiers did not do it"?

Why jump to the conclusions when you're telling others to avoid doing this?

Why not? They've been doing it regularly and systematically in the past 8 years



That's why there are still people suggesting to investigate first and then blame. But for some reason the ones who prefer to blame first, make much more noise

I was asked to list indirect indications why the information about Bucha may be fake. No conclusions, only doubts.

Just look at almost any war ever. Happens pretty well every time from all sides.

As I wrote before. According to the civilians Russian army was searching through private buildings for alcohol.

If you combine extreme stress, extremely low morale, owning weapons, all that, with alcohol, it's already giving good explanation why it happened.

well. it's not yet clear whether the acts were committed by order from the top or whether they were just local actions. it wouldn't surprise me if they were ordered as part of a scorched earth strategy.

Offers made

It's exactly the same Red Army, they were told they're fighting nazis.
Call it (and imagine, good word btw) whatever you like, the patterns still stand.

There's no doubt about which army invaded other country and created millions of refugees. The attention grabbing photos are just another display of violence.

Anyway, Russia secured a bad reputation for years to come. Putin political career is over. Of course, the guy can stay in power as any other dictator supported by the military.

I guess the two terrifying weeks my guests stayed in a Kyiv shelter hearing bombs and missiles fall was also a staged fiction.

Well it’s not the “Red” red army anymore, ist the shadow of the Red Army, but Yes, thank you. The patterns are the same for any army in any century. What I have been trying to say for ages.

i think we got it already. you're hosting ukrainian refugees and you're a great person.

Who said this? What is the purpose of such generalizations?
No one here objects that civilians in Ukraine are suffering now.
Not so many remember that they've been suffering before too.

Just taking your lies, propaganda, misinformation and disinformation to the logical conclusion. Sorry if it upsets you.

Evidence is factual information, not a lot of guesswork.

I will give you an example "In Bucha there were no Russian irregular troops", where is the list of which Russian troops were in Bucha?

The Chechen in Bucha were from the Special Rapid Response Force (SOBR) Terek and another paramilitary riot-control force known as OMON which are not under the direct control of the regular army .

Sorry, I forgot that you "anti-fascists" have no sense for sarcasm.

About "On the corpses are white bandages, the meaning of which is "I am on your side" for the Russian army"; what is your source for this claim? Do you believe wounded people who are not on the side of the Russian Army get different colour bandages?
Which colours are available and what are their meanings?

Such nonsense

Whether noncence or not, pro-Ukrainian forces wear blue bandages