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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

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Ok. Who killed the children there and how?
Both sides did, as shown by the Ukranian use of cluster bombs.

But only one side really counts.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/statu...Cm2X4zYZ2cnSTQ

Hackers getting medieval on Kremlin's ass
(It fits perfectly, because they are in the Castle now)
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Ok. Who killed the children there and how?
The children on both sides of the imaginary border in the east of Ukraine died in the war that Russia started on Ukrainan territory in 2014 and supported all these years for it's own purpose.
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Old 09.04.2022, 15:57
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Good perspective on the oligarchs, among other things.

‘There Is No Reasonable Way for This to End’: Bill Browder on How to Stop the War https://nyti.ms/3jspMMl
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

I'm drunk and just saw a pic of Pres. Zelensky and B. Johnson meeting in Kyiv. https://t.co/ssDfVOo3OS
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The children on both sides of the imaginary border in the east of Ukraine died in the war that Russia started on Ukrainan territory in 2014 and supported all these years for it's own purpose.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61021862
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Less than a year ago, I walked through the Hurov with Lyubov Vasilievna and Dominic, her two-year-old grandson. I have known Lyubov for eight years, since the day she was wounded and two other grandchildren - Nikita, 10, and Karolina, six - were killed at the war's beginning in 2014 after Russian-backed forces staged a rebellion in eastern Ukraine against the Kyiv government.

The three of them had been out walking when a shell exploded. In hospital, Lyubov told me she blamed herself for their deaths. "I don't know how I am going to survive this. The images of them are always in front of my eyes," she said.
(The article as a whole is about the failure of the UN and looking at the 84 million people who are currently "displaced" in the world)
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

According to the BBC
"A Western official has confirmed Russia has reorganised the command of its operations in Ukraine, with the new general having had extensive experience in battle operations in Syria.

The source said the commander of Russia’s southern military district, Gen Alexander Dvornikov, now leads the invasion."

Likely this will be good for Ukraine in the short term as Dvornikov will call a pause while he finds out what is happening, and where military groups are and plan his next steps.

Depending on how competent Dvornikov is this could be bad news for Ukraine long term because so far the Russians have been fighting like several independent armies which Ukraine was able to exploit. It was believed there was no overall invasion leader until now and certainly, the Dvornikov announcement does not name whom he replaced.

Turning them into a combined and integrated force will make the Russians much more dangerous.
How competent Dvornikov was in his nine months in Syria I do not know.

The rumour was that Lieutenant-General Mikhail Zusko would get the leadership role. So far he has proven to be the most competent Russian general in Ukraine so probably lucky for Ukraine he was not appointed.

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I wonder how long he will survive.
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According to the BBC
"A Western official has confirmed Russia has reorganised the command of its operations in Ukraine, with the new general having had extensive experience in battle operations in Syria.
Syria? Get ready for some real atrocities. That guy isn´t going to pussyfoot around.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

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Fact checking Russian claims about Bucha.
https://www.bbc.com/news/60981238

William Hague has written an excellent analysis on the value of intelligence.
Revealing the truth about Russia’s actions and intentions is proving to be a powerful weapon in the Ukraine conflict
It's in the Times, behind a paywall, I'm afraid.
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CAn you give the general synopsis?
Basically the same here from the BBC. Inside the spies' attempts to stop the war
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDtLLij-EE
"Russian schoolchildren ask to kill Ukrainians faster"

These people seem hopless. I pity the Russians, who can't stand war - there seem no other choice to run from the country.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDtLLij-EE
"Russian schoolchildren ask to kill Ukrainians faster"

These people seem hopless. I pity the Russians, who can't stand war - there seem no other choice to run from the country.
Almost like Hitler youth was ideologized
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I'm drunk and just saw a pic of Pres. Zelensky and B. Johnson meeting in Kyiv. https://t.co/ssDfVOo3OS
Credit where it’s due.
Johnson has offered assistance which will happen. Von Lyden offers platitudes which will need to be agreed by all other 27 leaders. After Orban's significant win, I wouldn't hold your breath on the communiqe being agreed, let alone any useful assistance.
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Credit where it’s due.
Johnson has offered assistance which will happen. Von Lyden offers platitudes which will need to be agreed by all other 27 leaders. After Orban's significant win, I wouldn't hold your breath on the communiqe being agreed, let alone any useful assistance.
EU is already helping with humanitarian aid and such, plus individual countries decided to step up and give the Ukrainians weapons so now you're probably regurgitating the usual anti-EU crap you've read in some British newspaper.

As for Boris, I agree, credit where's due. He either needs it to win another elections or want UK companies to take part in the subsequent reconstruction of UA, whatever, but he did something very good the other day, visiting Ukraine. Orban is an idiot and a minor figure of illiberal democracy who hasn't been grabbed by the balls and bullied into submission yet, as he would have fully deserved. He was tolerated so far, like many other cretines.
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As for Boris, I agree, credit where's due. He either needs it to win another elections or want UK companies to take part in the subsequent reconstruction of UA, whatever, but he did something very good the other day, visiting Ukraine. Orban is an idiot and a minor figure of illiberal democracy who hasn't been grabbed by the balls and bullied into submission yet, as he would have fully deserved. He was tolerated so far, like many other cretines.
Yes credit where it's due, it's thrown BoJo a second life line in his term as PM, on what otherwise would have seen him staring down the benches of the House of Commons, to see whether he survives a No Confidence vote ( over Downing Streets Partygate ) if the invasion never happened.
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Yes credit where it's due, it's thrown BoJo a second life line in his term as PM, on what otherwise would have seen him staring down the benches of the House of Commons, to see whether he survives a No Confidence vote ( over Downing Streets Partygate ) if the invasion never happened.
And his sidekick, and potential successor, has shown to be a soufflé. Rising nicely before collapsing spectacularly.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

The Ukrainian Ombudswoman for Human Rights has said that the Russian government is crafting legislation to allow Russians to adopt Ukrainian children forcibly taken to Russia by military forces.

She has also stated that, so far, over 121,000 children have been "deported" by the Russian government.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...22-4?r=US&IR=T

If true, further evidence of genocidal strategies by Russia. I was cautious not to use the word genocide in the earlier phases of the war - but it seems that's what they mean by denazification.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Anf more nonsense from Karaganov.

https://www.corriere.it/economia/azi...7cc9b19a.shtml

I bet in Moscow they are all super focused on the French election now. If this crazy woman becomes president, then this will be a huge win for Putin.
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Anf more nonsense from Karaganov.

https://www.corriere.it/economia/azi...7cc9b19a.shtml

I bet in Moscow they are all super focused on the French election now. If this crazy woman becomes president, then this will be a huge win for Putin.
Oh heck, if France goes all nazi on us, along with Hungary and Denmark an Poland then we know why Rick Sanchez is confused about when this shit became default.
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Oh heck, if France goes all nazi on us...
...perhaps Russia will invade.
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