Dear Madam/Sir, there are literal orphans today that will be there for another 60-70 years on our planet. People is still cleaning polluted and dangerous sites dating back to ww1 and ww2. Damn, ww1 ended a century ago.

Areas destroyed during ww1 or occupied by the Russians after ww2 are underdeveloped and poorer. Economics, that's an interesting topic. Did you migrate to Switzerland because economy at home suffered long-term consequences from ww2 and now claim 40,50, 60 years down the line no one cares?

Not understanding what that has to do with what I wrote, do you or do you not want Ukraine to prosper when this is all over?

I guess the main point here is that you are devoid of any empathy.
Raw numbers and natural selection is all that there is, right?

GröFaZ stuff

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Putin involved in war ‘at level of colonel or brigadier’, say western sources

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...P=share_btn_tw

War has long-term consequences. Maybe even some aspect of our lives were controlled by the outcome of a war that ended long ago. So, even if 40 or 60 years have passed, the consequences are there.

Well done Kalush Orchestra upon your return to Ukraine.

Here's their winning song again in case you missed it ? performed back in Ukraine.

Of course everything in the past has consequences that still echo today. I could say that without WW2 my granddkids would not be who they are. You could also say that your existence is due to the direct actions of some monkey banging the rocks half a million years ago. But this is butterfly wing territory.

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic" Attributed to Stalin but is actually paraphrased from Kurt Tucholsky.

And you are totally wrong.
I do however take an interest in history and this interest gives me insight into a slightly bigger picture unlike most people who get their opinions by a few seconds of soundbite handfed to them from the news.
Therefor I believe that this war will either peter out and by the time half a century has passed it will be a footnote in history. Or it blows up into WW3 with all the bangs and trimmings, at which point any empathy over the plight of the Ukraine is moot.

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So actually I was right about your lack of emapthy. As I wrote previously - raw numbers - that's all there is to you. You are literally citing quote about the numbers in response. Funny how you write "you're totally wrong" and confirm what I said at the same time



The next funny part is how you blather about that this war isn't a problem in the big picture and Ukraine will prosper. You write it sitting in the one of the richest countries in the world, which didn't get involved in any conflict since 175 years. Wonder why you didn't choose the one that "got the chance to prosper and thrive after some war".

But I get it. You're educated and proud person. Yeah, yeah.
I guess I should pick up my toys and let the grown ups talk. Your final blockbuster, eh?

Probably just a different generation. One that believes in "Realpolitik" and how Ukraine shouldn't have tried to get out of Russia's "sphere on influence"..and how we should split the world in two: big and powerful nations which should boss around the smaller and "less important" ones and show them "the light". I bet some people also believe ww1 was a mistake, although it brought to its knees a hideous empire i.e. Austro-Hungarian/Habsburgs, the prison of nations like USSR and the Tsarist, Ottoman ones before...but we digress.
If you thought fascism was over.....you probably didn't pay attention to EF...to begin with.

this war is precisely the way that UA will get out of RU's sphere of influence (well at least if they win). we're witnessing in real time the birth of a new nation. this war has brought together the country in a whole-of-country effort to defeat RU and fight for their right to be an independent country.

If successful, it will be one helluva david vs goliath origin story.

Well, let's toast for the footnote in history not causing personal distress and if it does, zero complains. It's the big picture that matters.

seems like the new "independent" nation won't be including mariupol.

The Russian policy of bombarding cities until they are flattened makes it very difficult for the Russians to defend them when the Ukrainians counterattack; no hiding places.

Funny how you put "independent" in quotation marks in regards to Ukraine - when in Russia 140 million people are living under the dictatorial rule of one paranoid thief.

Feelings are a personal thing, they're not arguments.

There's no way to kick anybody out of Nato against their will.

As for Finland and Sweden joining: Turkey has a problem with their support for members of the terrorist organisation called PKK. The US, the EU, and Turkey have the same position in that.

But hey, never let a good opportunity to smear an entire nation pass you by. Especially if it's based on nothing but prejudice.

We're going in circles.

These feelings are about deeds done in Ukraine.
And of course, I can have opinion that I don't like that women get raped - but you're still free to say that you like it. Who will forbid you?
We can relativize everything, but I doubt that any discussion will make sense then.

What???

Apparently anything goes for you in the fight for empathy, even an insinuation like that. Ironically it is itself completely devoid of empathy. Talk about taking down your own argument.