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22.05.2022, 17:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Oddities, the list includes Biden's son Hunter but not his daughter Ashley Biden and not Trump. | | | | | Whodda thunk that Putin doesn't appreciate Hunter's board membership of Ukrainian Burisma Holdings, at that time the largest private natural gas producer. Of course that job was completely non-shady, even though Hunter had no particular knowledge about Ukraine or any in the fossil fuels industries at all. And despite the fact that Ukraine is notorious for its corruption, so much so that Selensky actually made it his main campaign theme.
Just like his involvments in China are completely legit. Joe says so, and he knows his son thus it's as good as fact - "trust me".
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22.05.2022, 18:08
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Oh, we already do know. But the harvests will be smaller and thus prices will skyrocket.
The whole political system in Europe relies on the availability of very cheap food.
Most people don’t even know anymore how to properly cook.
In reality, what’s going to happen is that we’ll rather starve to death 20m+ people in the 3rd world than changing our habits.
I know people hate Greta Thunberg, but this is the scenario that she was seeing. | | | | | It's not cheap once you convert it to the local currency of the country the food comes from. There's a reason why they through all the effort of exporting. If you convert what you eat in a day around here is like 50 kg of rice where people will starve. So what you call cheap is unaffordable for the people that truly need it for survival. Enjoy that.
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22.05.2022, 18:46
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It's not cheap once you convert it to the local currency of the country the food comes from. There's a reason why they through all the effort of exporting. If you convert what you eat in a day around here is like 50 kg of rice where people will starve. So what you call cheap is unaffordable for the people that truly need it for survival. Enjoy that. | | | | | I know.
And that’s truly disturbing.
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22.05.2022, 21:43
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Whodda thunk that Putin doesn't appreciate Hunter's board membership of Ukrainian Burisma Holdings, at that time the largest private natural gas producer. Of course that job was completely non-shady, even though Hunter had no particular knowledge about Ukraine or any in the fossil fuels industries at all. And despite the fact that Ukraine is notorious for its corruption, so much so that Selensky actually made it his main campaign theme.
Just like his involvments in China are completely legit. Joe says so, and he knows his son thus it's as good as fact - "trust me". | | | | | Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, chair of the Homeland Security Committee, and GOP Sen. Charles Grassley, who heads the Senate Finance committees, carried out a joint Senate inquiry into Joe and Hunter Biden and their links to Ukraine.
The result published in Sept. 2020 was they found no evidence of wrongdoing.
This does not stop people from spreading evidence free conspiracy theories.
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23.05.2022, 00:17
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, chair of the Homeland Security Committee, and GOP Sen. Charles Grassley, who heads the Senate Finance committees, carried out a joint Senate inquiry into Joe and Hunter Biden and their links to Ukraine.
The result published in Sept. 2020 was they found no evidence of wrongdoing.
This does not stop people from spreading evidence free conspiracy theories. | | | | | Which part of my post are you trying to disprove? Shadiness is distinct from illegality, Ukraine's corruption problem is an open secret.
It'll be interesting to see what results from Hunter's laptop. You know, the story that was immediately banned on Twitter and Facebook, it couldn't even be linked. Even NYT and WaPo have stopped wiping it under the rug.
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23.05.2022, 01:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Which part of my post are you trying to disprove? Shadiness is distinct from illegality, Ukraine's corruption problem is an open secret.
It'll be interesting to see what results from Hunter's laptop. You know, the story that was immediately banned on Twitter and Facebook, it couldn't even be linked. Even NYT and WaPo have stopped wiping it under the rug. | | | | | Most of the emails are now publicly searchable on a website. Can’t be bothered to look it up but if The Big G and Bing censors it, they can probably be found via yandex.
That said, a lot of stuff was made up or implied about Trump’s connections to Russia and none of that stuck, either.
Hunter, sniffing coke from the bellies of hookers, was paid tens of thousands of USD a month for actual or perceived „access“ to the VP.
There’s nothing special about the later because everybody in D.C. is peddling some sort of influence he or she has or might have. And the former doesn’t come to light too often because most people in DC that are cokeheads still have sober assistants that prevent the worst
The Biden family has, from what I’ve read, just proven to be extraordinarily amateurish and downright comically stupid in their approach to it.
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23.05.2022, 10:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, apart from weapon manufacturers obviously. | | | | | Military personnel are promoted way quicker in war situations.
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23.05.2022, 10:27
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I'm starting to think that the people most surprised by Russian army and government making mistakes left and right are NOT the Russians. Some people need to believe that Russia is a powerful and unbeatable ogre, otherwise the way the have lived their lives in the last decades makes no sense. So, in order to feel safe and stay sane...Russia is almighty. Being coherent is more important than opening the eyes. | | | | | I think this can be extended to the people who are convinced that Putin and the FSB have their finger in every pie and are shaping geopolitical events around the world
-Brexit
-2016 US elections
-"owning" certain politicians (exclusively ones that refuse to go for a globalist agenda or who question anything)
-coordinating attacks on US soldiers in Afghanistan
-getting Hunter Biden to drop off his child porn laptop voluntarily for a repair
and the list goes on....
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23.05.2022, 10:33
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, chair of the Homeland Security Committee, and GOP Sen. Charles Grassley, who heads the Senate Finance committees, carried out a joint Senate inquiry into Joe and Hunter Biden and their links to Ukraine. The result published in Sept. 2020 was they found no evidence of wrongdoing.
This does not stop people from spreading evidence free conspiracy theories. | | | | | There are people here who believe Biden has orchestrated the war in Ukraine and you can't get them out of it no matter how many arguments against this ridiculous theory you may bring on.
There's a pattern here, once we talk about Kremlin's proven links to various politics and events we get the memo with Biden and his "drug addicted" son.
Let's forget Russia has invaded Ukraine.
BTW, Zelensky and Ukrainian gov was also accused of being under drugs. Is this the trademark of Kremlin propaganda? | Quote: | |  | | | Which part of my post are you trying to disprove? Shadiness is distinct from illegality, Ukraine's corruption problem is an open secret.
It'll be interesting to see what results from Hunter's laptop. You know, the story that was immediately banned on Twitter and Facebook, it couldn't even be linked. Even NYT and WaPo have stopped wiping it under the rug. | | | | | What about Russia's corruption problem? It was obvious in the way the Russian army functions. C'mon, some of us have met folks from Russia and they can tell you a lot of stories with and about corruption...to point our UA's corruption under these circumstances is beyond ridiculous. It would be interesting to see the results from your laptop, how about that.
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23.05.2022, 10:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Most of the emails are now publicly searchable on a website. Can’t be bothered to look it up but if The Big G and Bing censors it, they can probably be found via yandex.
That said, a lot of stuff was made up or implied about Trump’s connections to Russia and none of that stuck, either.
Hunter, sniffing coke from the bellies of hookers, was paid tens of thousands of USD a month for actual or perceived „access“ to the VP.
There’s nothing special about the later because everybody in D.C. is peddling some sort of influence he or she has or might have. And the former doesn’t come to light too often because most people in DC that are cokeheads still have sober assistants that prevent the worst
The Biden family has, from what I’ve read, just proven to be extraordinarily amateurish and downright comically stupid in their approach to it. | | | | | Here is the laptop website.
Back in Ukraine, high numbers of civilians continue to die daily, some 8 million have been displaced according to UNHCR estimates and the war drags on with little progress by either side.
Ukraine benefits from ever more advanced Western weaponry while Russia sends ever more raw and poorly trained troops to their deaths, number of military deaths on both sides must be horrendous; no doubt dwarfed by the numbers of civilian deaths.
UK's defence ministry says Russia has lost as many men in three months of war in Ukraine as the Soviet Union did in nine years of war in Afghanistan.
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23.05.2022, 10:58
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Here is the laptop website.
Back in Ukraine, high numbers of civilians continue to die daily, some 8 million have been displaced according to UNHCR estimates and the war drags on with little progress by either side.
Ukraine benefits from ever more advanced Western weaponry while Russia sends ever more raw and poorly trained troops to their deaths, number of military deaths on both sides must be horrendous; no doubt dwarfed by the numbers of civilian deaths.
UK's defence ministry says Russia has lost as many men in three months of war in Ukraine as the Soviet Union did in nine years of war in Afghanistan. | | | | | I question if giving free stuff to the second most corrupt country in europe will benefit the people of the Ukraine or to the select few who will profit handsomely as some of the high tech equipment inevitably lands with the highest bidder. (be it a terrorist group or another rogue state)
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23.05.2022, 11:13
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
zelensky has acknowledged the heavy losses of the ukrainian military with up to 100 dying every day.
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23.05.2022, 11:27
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Guess it has entered the meat-grinder phase.
I assume our politicians are aware of the risks of delivering advanced weapons to Ukraine but they see it as the lesser evil.
They might be wrong, they might be right. Time will tell.
Likely, both sides will want to position themselves advantageously before Winter.
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23.05.2022, 12:17
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Young soldier 21y/o made na example of and sentenced to life imprisonment.
The real evil gives orders and commands from the top.
Ukraine war: Russian soldier jailed for life over war crime https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61549569
“We can't let brute force rule the world - Zelensky”. No matter what, this truth always applies.
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23.05.2022, 12:21
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Guess it has entered the meat-grinder phase.
I assume our politicians are aware of the risks of delivering advanced weapons to Ukraine but they see it as the lesser evil.
They might be wrong, they might be right. Time will tell.
Likely, both sides will want to position themselves advantageously before Winter. | | | | | Sadly, yes. The huge bargaining chip of natural gas only matters until August, for sure September. So, Russia will keep hanging on at least until next Autumn.
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23.05.2022, 12:30
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Zelenski says he needs 5B/month to sustain the war.
Good thing the monkey-pocks are just around the corner so we can blame those when taxes need to raised...
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23.05.2022, 12:42
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Zelenski says he needs 5B/month to sustain the war.
Good thing the monkey-pocks are just around the corner so we can blame those when taxes need to raised... | | | | | Luckily those of us old enough to have had the smallpox vaccination are protected against monkeypox 
Good luck to you anti-vaxxers.
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23.05.2022, 15:40
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | What about Russia's corruption problem? It was obvious in the way the Russian army functions. C'mon, some of us have met folks from Russia and they can tell you a lot of stories with and about corruption...to point our UA's corruption under these circumstances is beyond ridiculous. | | | | | See here. Last time I checked Hunter was neither subject to its laws nor involved with Russia. | Quote: | |  | | | It would be interesting to see the results from your laptop, how about that. | | | | | I'll make it publicly available for $3 millions, the sum Hunter got from Burisma Holdings.
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23.05.2022, 17:58
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Boris Bondarev's resignation letter. Taken from this LinkedIn account. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update...2718477090817/ | Quote: |  | | | Long overdue, but today I resign from civil service. Enough is enough.
For twenty years of my diplomatic career I have seen different turns of our foreign policy, but never have I been so ashamed of my country as on February 24 of this year. The aggressive war unleashed by Putin against Ukraine, and in fact against the entire Western world, is not only a crime against the Ukrainian people, but also, perhaps, the most serious crime against the people of Russia, with a bold letter Z crossing out all hopes and prospects for a prosperous free society in our country.
Those who conceived this war want only one thing - to remain in power forever, live in pompous tasteless palaces, sail on yachts comparable in tonnage and cost to the entire Russian Navy, enjoying unlimited power and complete impunity. To achieve that they are willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes. Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died just for this.
I regret to admit that over all these twenty years the level of lies and unprofessionalism in the work of the Foreign Ministry has been increasing all the time. However, in most recent years, this has become simply catastrophic. Instead of unbiased information, impartial analysis and sober forecasting, there are propaganda clichés in the spirit of Soviet newspapers of the 1930s. A system has been built that deceives itself.
Minister Lavrov is a good illustration of the degradation of this system. In 18 years, he went from a professional and educated intellectual, whom many my colleagues held in such high esteem, to a person who constantly broadcasts conflicting statements and threatens the world (that is, Russia too) with nuclear weapons!
Today, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is not about diplomacy. It is all about warmongering, lies and hatred. It serves interests of few, the very few people thus contributing to further isolation and degradation of my country. Russia no longer has allies, and there is no one to blame but its reckless and ill-conceived policy.
I studied to be a diplomat and have been a diplomat for twenty years. The Ministry has become my home and family. But I simply cannot any longer share in this bloody, witless and absolutely needless ignominy.
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23.05.2022, 18:08
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On the topic of denazification - from today's Times. | Quote: |  | | | Russian far-right groups and neo-Nazis have joined forces fighting in Ukraine, rendering President Putin’s claim that he is denazifying the country “absurd”, German foreign intelligence agents have said.
The Russian Imperial Legion, the paramilitary arm of the extremist Russian Imperial Movement, had already taken part in the fighting, the BND said in a seven-page document sent to German ministries this month and seen by Der Spiegel.
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One of the two Rusich founders had been considered a sadist “since he killed a puppy in a social media post”, the report to ministers said.
To prove the right-wing extremist background of the organisation, the BND analysts added pictures of the Rusich founders it named only as Alexei M and Jan P. The report showed M with a swastika flag and P making the Hitler salute in front of a campfire.
The BND added that a right-wing extremist, named only as Alexander M, from Donetsk had tried to recruit volunteers for the war via Telegram, saying that a decision had been taken to form a battalion to support Russian and pro-Russian forces.
The BND said that M himself had fought on the Russian side in Donbas in the past. He is known to a wider audience in Russia as a military correspondent for the Russian state television channel Pervyy Kanal. | | | | | Really, Pervyy Kanal? | This user would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post: | |
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