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30.05.2022, 17:42
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | So why don't you share that propaganda with us instead of the rubbish propaganda you usually copy?  | | | | | is this ok? Talking with a few exhausted soldiers in Bakhmut, just back from the frontlines. "We don't have any new weapons here, new forces, nothing," says one of them. Another, who fought in 2014: "I'm expected to fight a tank with my Kalashnikov. We're just cannon fodder. We're f*****." https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHaue...13445118537729 | 
30.05.2022, 18:38
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | well as we've seen many times axa you seem incapable of putting yourself in other people's shoes and seem to think that your personal situation is the standard for everyone so don't worry too much about it. | | | | | I guess I never caught the collectivist bug
Back to trustworthy news: | Quote: |  | | | Putin confirmed to Erdogan that Russia can export food if sanctions are lifted — Kremlin | | | | | https://tass.com/politics/1458035 | 
30.05.2022, 19:40
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I feel that the main reason that people here have problem with your views is that you chose Switzerland for some reason and you are still free to change that choice.
At the same time you seem to praise how life in Russia looks like and how wrong "the western" people are about that.
So then people here will ask themselves "why is he not living in Russia then? If living in Russia seems to be better than in Switzerland". There is an inconsistency in logic from their point of view.
And then they come with the conclusion of "Russian troll". It's the explanation for that inconsistency. | | | | | I don’t remember ever saying how great life in Russia is……I’ve never even been to Russia. For the record I am not rooting for Russia. It sucks that they invaded Ukraine, I won’t justify it, it can’t be. But it is a conflict between them and I do not support interventionism in this war. It is of no benefit to the people of the US or western Europe except some vague idea that the Russians will then march across the plains of eastern Europe to Berlin and Paris. (Yawn)
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30.05.2022, 20:17
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | is this ok? Talking with a few exhausted soldiers in Bakhmut, just back from the frontlines. "We don't have any new weapons here, new forces, nothing," says one of them. Another, who fought in 2014: "I'm expected to fight a tank with my Kalashnikov. We're just cannon fodder. We're f*****." https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHaue...13445118537729 | | | | | Thanks, one would expect the invading Russian soldiers to be better equipped.
Neil Hauer is Canadian, this reads more like Ukrainian propaganda.
He often works for CNN like "Georgia's defiant Orthodox church will host Easter worshipers despite lockdown. By Neil Hauer, for CNN"
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30.05.2022, 20:47
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks, one would expect the invading Russian soldiers to be better equipped. | | | | | lol he was talking to ukrainian soldiers.
second part was also rather damning: Very pessimistic towards Ukrainian leadership: "You have to understand that there are two castes in this country: the upper, and the lower. We're the lower. They get the money, and we're expected to just march forward and die." | 
30.05.2022, 20:52
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | lol he was talking to ukrainian soldiers.
second part was also rather damning: Very pessimistic towards Ukrainian leadership: "You have to understand that there are two castes in this country: the upper, and the lower. We're the lower. They get the money, and we're expected to just march forward and die." | | | | | Nothing in that tweet mentions Ukrainian soldiers, just your wishing it was.
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30.05.2022, 21:04
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | is this ok? Talking with a few exhausted soldiers in Bakhmut, just back from the frontlines. "We don't have any new weapons here, new forces, nothing," says one of them. Another, who fought in 2014: "I'm expected to fight a tank with my Kalashnikov. We're just cannon fodder. We're f*****." https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilPHaue...13445118537729 | | | | | OK, what do Ukrainian soldiers say? And how representative is it of the general morale?
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30.05.2022, 21:14
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Nothing in that tweet mentions Ukrainian soldiers, just your wishing it was. | | | | | The guy's Twitter timeline clearly suggests he is reporting from the UA side of the front.
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30.05.2022, 21:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Nothing in that tweet mentions Ukrainian soldiers, just your wishing it was. | | | | | You have to get better at Twitter, read the thread…..
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30.05.2022, 22:29
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Useful idiots.
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30.05.2022, 23:14
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | The protesters from way back when have gotten rather old.
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31.05.2022, 08:26
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The protesters from way back when have gotten rather old. | | | | | It’s not “mothers against bombs” but Grandmothers against bombs.
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31.05.2022, 09:18
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Nothing in that tweet mentions Ukrainian soldiers, just your wishing it was. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | The guy's Twitter timeline clearly suggests he is reporting from the UA side of the front. | | | | | reality always catches up to fantasy.
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31.05.2022, 09:20
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I don’t remember ever saying how great life in Russia is……I’ve never even been to Russia. For the record I am not rooting for Russia. It sucks that they invaded Ukraine, I won’t justify it, it can’t be. But it is a conflict between them and I do not support interventionism in this war. It is of no benefit to the people of the US or western Europe except some vague idea that the Russians will then march across the plains of eastern Europe to Berlin and Paris. (Yawn) | | | | | BS. You do not support interventionism in this war which you (apparently) find unfair? What's your attitude when an elderly or a woman is attacked by a 2 m tall thug, that "it's their conflict"? It is of benefit to the people of Eastern Europe hence all Europe because if this crazy clique in Kremlin wins now they'll continue terrorising everyone with their appetite for expansion.
I see, you want Europe back to what it used to be 30 years ago. Sorry, that ship has sailed...it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.
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31.05.2022, 09:33
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | What's your attitude when an elderly or a woman is attacked by a 2 m tall thug, that "it's their conflict"? | | | | | treat them all equally regardless of gender or age?
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31.05.2022, 09:36
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The protesters from way back when have gotten rather old. | | | | |
To be fair the BBC did feature a young guy at the Protests from the Young Communist League.
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31.05.2022, 09:38
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | treat them all equally regardless of gender or age? | | | | | Does that translate to "let the thug make the law because he can"....
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31.05.2022, 09:42
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Does that translate to "let the thug make the law because he can".... | | | | | i believe its the correct answer in a western liberal democracy.
pulling out a phone and recording it for social media is probably also acceptable these days.
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