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Old 18.09.2022, 18:40
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

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I read the last few pages of posts of this thread. Please try to stay within the topic (the unjust war in Ukraine), avoid personal attacks. Do not troll. Provide a valid source.

IMHO, the following posters are the most objective and always worth reading with regards of what's happening in Ukraine (Factual grade 80% and more):

Slammer, Urs Max, NotAllThere, Phil_MCR, roegner, k_and_e, Axa.


The following posters are partially objective (Factual grade 60 - 80%):

kiwiguy08, komsomolez, TonyClifton.

The rest of you shall stop beating around the bush: your posts are often repetitive, off topics, with many contradictions, containing dubious links and a tendency to engage in more opinionated writing. Such posts are only eating bandwidth and increase cloud clutter and waste.


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A new troll, how good of you to come and patronise us.

Perhaps if you have time you also might share some views on the war in Ukraine instead of sharing your unsolicited view of the quality of this thread; based on your wide and detailed research consisting of reading a whole 0.5% of the posts in this thread.
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Old 18.09.2022, 22:31
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Back to the war, as recently as yesterday Russia was claiming the Oskil river would be their new first line of defence.

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Some more good news "A total of 165 ships have left Ukrainian ports since the implementation of the Ukraine grain deal, the country’s Infrastructure Ministry said Sunday via Facebook."

Russian military bloggers discussing Kherson mostly see a Russian withdrawal sooner or later, some even forecasting a complete collapse of the front in Autumn which seems unlikely to me.
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Old 18.09.2022, 22:45
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I read the last few pages of posts of this thread. Please try to stay within the topic (the unjust war in Ukraine), avoid personal attacks. Do not troll. Provide a valid source.

IMHO, the following posters are the most objective and always worth reading with regards of what's happening in Ukraine (Factual grade 80% and more):

Slammer, Urs Max, NotAllThere, Phil_MCR, roegner, k_and_e, Axa.


The following posters are partially objective (Factual grade 60 - 80%):

kiwiguy08, komsomolez, TonyClifton.

The rest of you shall stop beating around the bush: your posts are often repetitive, off topics, with many contradictions, containing dubious links and a tendency to engage in more opinionated writing. Such posts are only eating bandwidth and increase cloud clutter and waste.


NB: Only posters who posted more than 10 posts are taken into accounts.


Have a wonderful evening and God Bless! And please pray for Ukraine!


I don't post very often on this thread because it is so hard to verify and understand what is actually going on in Ukraine. Buoyed for the recent gains though and share your sentiment of praying for Ukraine!
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Old 18.09.2022, 22:52
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I don't post very often on this thread because it is so hard to verify and understand what is actually going on in Ukraine. Buoyed for the recent gains though and share your sentiment of praying for Ukraine!
I pray you will carry over your desire "to verify and understand what is actually going on" before you post in other threads.
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I read the last few pages of posts of this thread. Please try to stay within the topic (the unjust war in Ukraine), avoid personal attacks. Do not troll. Provide a valid source.

IMHO, the following posters are the most objective and always worth reading with regards of what's happening in Ukraine (Factual grade 80% and more):

Slammer, Urs Max, NotAllThere, Phil_MCR, roegner, k_and_e, Axa.


The following posters are partially objective (Factual grade 60 - 80%):

kiwiguy08, komsomolez, TonyClifton.

The rest of you shall stop beating around the bush: your posts are often repetitive, off topics, with many contradictions, containing dubious links and a tendency to engage in more opinionated writing. Such posts are only eating bandwidth and increase cloud clutter and waste.


NB: Only posters who posted more than 10 posts are taken into accounts.


Have a wonderful evening and God Bless! And please pray for Ukraine!
I'm not so sure about Slammer, Urs Max, NotAllThere, Phil_MCR, roegner, and Axa...
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Old 18.09.2022, 23:04
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A new troll, how good of you to come and patronise us.

Perhaps if you have time you also might share some views on the war in Ukraine instead of sharing your unsolicited view of the quality of this thread; based on your wide and detailed research consisting of reading a whole 0.5% of the posts in this thread.

I can't find the right button to thank you!
I wasn't able to reply earlier, I realized I was using a forbidden username. A moderator (3Wishes) made the necessary change.

Sorry I overreacted. I was angered by two posters earlier today. One has since been banned.

I was already in very bad mood after reading this story:

https://news.yahoo.com/hungary-orban...083800804.html

Orban doesnt care at all what is happening next door (to HU).

Or maybe he doesnt want to aknowledge how bad the human tragedy is in Ukraine. Im talking about civilians including babies, children and older people.

In Switzerland/EU, many are worried about higher gas and electricity bills. That they may not be able to travel in fall.
In Ukraine, people may not even have enough gas and electricity for heating and winter is fast approaching.


It's a shame!
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Old 18.09.2022, 23:12
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

OK, poster with 3 posts....who jumps right in this thread about the war in Ukraine, I don't give a rat's ass about your opinion and who you consider they provided the right links and opinions here.

You shall do as you please, however. The more like you pop up here, and are tolerated, the more of a joke this forum becomes. Have fun and welcome to my ignore list.

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A new troll, how good of you to come and patronise us.
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Who said it's new? Oh, marton.....
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Old 19.09.2022, 10:14
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Two interesting developments on the diplomatic front:

1. Modi outright came out in public to criticize Putin - presumably feeling the pressure from the West

2. Putin relaying concerns that Xi made. I was really surprised that Putin would publicly air a criticism given in private and wonder why he did that.

Things are going very wrong for him, both on the political front and on the ground in the conflict.

EDIT: I saw the FT take on this: "Raffaello Pantucci, a senior fellow at Singapore’s S Rajaratnam School of International Studies, said it was “no secret that the Chinese weren’t ecstatic” about the Ukraine war, with its resulting disruption of energy markets and food price inflation.

“That’s hugely negative to them and the Russians can see that,” Pantucci said. “It’s paying respect to recognise those issues publicly.”"

If it really is a swallowing of pride and offering a public mea culpa, then I think it is a nice move by Putin and shows some savvy operations politically - in contrast to some of the disasterous military decisions taken.
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Old 19.09.2022, 10:24
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Two interesting developments on the diplomatic front:

1. Modi outright came out in public to criticize Putin - presumably feeling the pressure from the West

2. Putin relaying concerns that Xi made. I was really surprised that Putin would publicly air a criticism given in private and wonder why he did that.

Things are going very wrong for him, both on the political front and on the ground in the conflict.
Yes, seeing President Putin put back in his place by his supposed allies and equals was quite a development.

As has been discussed before, the main issue I see is how Russia reacts to being backed into a corner. The best outcome is regime change, however escalation appears to be the most likely next step at the moment.

I still feel there needs to be a ladder on offer somewhere for him to climb down, though obviously a full withdrawal from Ukraine as a requirement.

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OK, poster with 3 posts....who jumps right in this thread about the war in Ukraine, I don't give a rat's ass about your opinion and who you consider they provided the right links and opinions here.

You shall do as you please, however. The more like you pop up here, and are tolerated, the more of a joke this forum becomes. Have fun and welcome to my ignore list.
Upset you didn't make the cut for his/her list?
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As has been discussed before, the main issue I see is how Russia reacts to being backed into a corner. The best outcome is regime change, however escalation appears to be the most likely next step at the moment.

I still feel there needs to be a ladder on offer somewhere for him to climb down, though obviously a full withdrawal from Ukraine as a requirement.
i don't think putin or russia sees themselves as backed into a corner. they seem content with a long grinding war. in fact last week putin explicitly stated that russia is in absolutely no hurry.
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Old 19.09.2022, 10:58
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Upset you didn't make the cut for his/her list?
You said you didn't contribute much to this thread as you don't really get what's happening in Ukraine and yet here you are, trumping up the conservative agenda? And this "new" troll only happened to mention the conservative and pro-Russia contributors? I'm surprised they didn't praise vushka.

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I still feel there needs to be a ladder on offer somewhere for him to climb down, though obviously a full withdrawal from Ukraine as a requirement.
Yeah right, he needs you to wipe his ass. I guess you wanted to reach this point, didn't you: playing the whole Second World War deals spiel with Russia. Guess what, it probably won't happen.
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Old 19.09.2022, 11:03
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i don't think putin or russia sees themselves as backed into a corner. they seem content with a long grinding war. in fact last week putin explicitly stated that russia is in absolutely no hurry.
I see this POV too, winter hasn't arrived yet and there's a fair chance this will test the resolve of Ukrainian support in the West.
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i don't think putin or russia sees themselves as backed into a corner. they seem content with a long grinding war. in fact last week putin explicitly stated that russia is in absolutely no hurry.
Exactly.
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Old 19.09.2022, 11:16
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And this "new" troll only happened to mention the conservative and pro-Russia contributors? I'm surprised they didn't praise vushka.

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I may have misunderstood his post but I read it differently from you. I thought he was condemning the pro-Russia contributors and had them in his ‘waste of bandwidth’ point at the bottom of his list. He seems pretty anti Russia and pro Ukraine to me and also doesn’t have much time for Orban.
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I may have misunderstood his post but I read it differently from you. I thought he was condemning the pro-Russia contributors and had them in his ‘waste of bandwidth’ point at the bottom of his list. He seems pretty anti Russia and pro Ukraine to me and also doesn’t have much time for Orban.
I read "troll" but you don't. It's OK. It will probably "reveal" himself/herself (even to the mods) later....as usual.

If his "introductory" post about other posters wasn't trolling, I don't know what it is. Seriously, BM?
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Old 19.09.2022, 13:51
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I see this POV too, winter hasn't arrived yet and there's a fair chance this will test the resolve of Ukrainian support in the West.
I believe, at this point all the Western leaders have staked their political lives on this.

There's no way back.
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Old 19.09.2022, 14:13
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i don't think putin or russia sees themselves as backed into a corner. they seem content with a long grinding war. in fact last week putin explicitly stated that russia is in absolutely no hurry.
He also explicitly stated that "Russia was gradually taking control of new areas of Ukraine".
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i don't think putin or russia sees themselves as backed into a corner. they seem content with a long grinding war. in fact last week putin explicitly stated that russia is in absolutely no hurry.
No hurry at all.

Anyway, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan perceived weakness in Russian control and started solving their disagreements. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...border-clashes

Just learned today that both, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, host Russian army bases. More interesting, the list of Russian army bases abroad is greater than 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_bases_abroad
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He also explicitly stated that "Russia was gradually taking control of new areas of Ukraine".
Like Kharkiv region?
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'slow and steady wins the race'
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