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*He is backed into a corner, internationally and domestically: Failure isn't an option for the hardliners backing him, so he needs to keep their hopes up, even if it means sending good, young men to the slaughter
failure has never been an option for russia in this war; this is merely the next step.

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*He to thThe threat of nukes is real but unlikely: that is lose/lose for everyone.
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Old 22.09.2022, 09:45
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I would assume they don't start with "old" people, I'd think they'd start with people who left the military less than 5 years ago. Then those at 10 years, etc.
But I think you're right about the equipment, I would be more worried about the cold than the enemy.
Ukrainian military officials reported in June 2022 that Russian forces had committed 80,000 members of the mobilized reserve to fight in Ukraine so maybe not too many of the young and fit are left to cull.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Xi Jinping....errr, Kim Jong Un denies NK sold artillery shells to Russia. Nope, don't link me to THAT GUY.

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North Korea denied that it has sold arms to Russia and blasted the US and “other hostile forces” for what it saw as spreading rumors that Kim Jong Un’s regime was aiding Moscow as it fought in Ukraine.

“We have never exported weapons or ammunition to Russia before and we will not plan to export them,” the state’s official Korean Central News Agency cited an unnamed vice director general in the Defense Ministry’s General Bureau of Equipment as saying.

“We condemn the U.S. for thoughtlessly circulating the rumor against the DPRK to pursue its base political and military aim, and we warn the US to stop making reckless remarks pulling up the DPRK and to keep its mouth shut,” the official said, referring to the country’s formal name -- the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

This month, US officials said Russia wants to buy millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea to use in its war against Ukraine, in the latest sign that international sanctions are forcing Moscow to seek help from the nation’s smaller, impoverished neighbor. The UK then said in a Defence Intelligence report that Russia is “almost certainly increasingly sourcing weaponry” from other sanctioned states like North Korea.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-kor...001721720.html

I guess it's a world war Iran sells drones to Russia to use in Ukraine. Israel sells anti-drone systems to Ukraine via Poland.

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An Israeli defense contractor is supplying anti-drone systems to Ukraine’s military by way of Poland, The Times of Israel’s Hebrew sister site Zman Yisrael reported Monday.

A source in the firm told Zman that the equipment was being sold to Poland to circumvent Israel’s refusal to sell advanced arms to Ukraine.

The company reported to the Defense Ministry that the sale was to Poland and appeared to be claiming not to be aware that Warsaw was acting as intermediary to transfer the weapons to Kyiv, which has been using the Israeli systems to fight against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Defense industry sources clarified that anti-drone systems — which can intercept and disrupt unmanned aerial vehicles — are classified as “advanced defensive technology” and therefore are not approved for sale to Ukraine. However, the Israeli government has appeared uninterested in torpedoing the deal.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...way-of-poland/
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Old 22.09.2022, 11:06
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“We have never exported weapons or ammunition to Russia before and we will not plan to export them,” the state’s official Korean Central News Agency cited an unnamed vice director general in the Defense Ministry’s General Bureau of Equipment as saying.
Is this leaving an ambiguous state in the wording?

We have never (so far) exported...
We will not plan to export them, as we've already done the planning, they'll be shipping next week...
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Old 22.09.2022, 11:29
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Is this leaving an ambiguous state in the wording?

We have never (so far) exported...
We will not plan to export them, as we've already done the planning, they'll be shipping next week...
ha, we'd have to read the original text in Korean to be sure
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Is this leaving an ambiguous state in the wording?

We have never (so far) exported...
We will not plan to export them, as we've already done the planning, they'll be shipping next week...
Can you export without planning, decide on the spot?
Or export to China, for it to send the stuff on.

This wording has more holes than an Emmentaler cheese.
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Old 22.09.2022, 19:41
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According to this site the decree does mention partial.
With typical Russian attention to detail point 7 is missing, or maybe point 7 is too explosive to release publically.
Allegedly, para 7 sets the number of people to be called up. If true, it is clearly a confidence building measure by the Kremlin not to release this, but have Shoigu claim it is 300k.
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Old 22.09.2022, 22:04
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

On August 25 Putin already ordered to recruit another 137k soldiers (increase total troops to 1.15mln), to be battle ready 5 months later.

An additional 300k now means triple the original 200k strong invasion army. And that's without counting however many were recruited in between already.
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UA has plenty of volunteers, but they need training: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-a...for-ukrainians
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Old 23.09.2022, 10:09
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UA has plenty of volunteers, but they need training: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-a...for-ukrainians
Seems the Russians do not need training

Here is claimed to be a video (Russian language) of Students being forced to mobilise despite claims that students will not be and that only people in the military reserve will be taken.

How Russia will train and keep so many people supplied with food, water and weapons under battle conditions will likely turn into a tragedy.
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Old 23.09.2022, 10:41
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

It's Friday, a great day to review Russia's strong and unmovable view on mobilisation directly from Russian News Agency TASS:

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2022.05.04 - Publications about plans to announce general mobilization in Russia on Victory Day should not be trusted, it is nonsense and not true, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists. "No, you shouldn't," he said in reply to a question about whether one should listen to such reports, "It's not true, it's nonsense."
https://tass.com/politics/1446787

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2022.05.05 State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin on Thursday said Russia isn’t planning a military mobilization. "No, no, no," he said when asked if a mobilization was planned. "I’ll tell you this on and off the air."
https://tass.com/politics/1447583

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2022.06.14 There is no need for additional mobilization of forces for the special military operation in Ukraine, says Viktor Bondarev, head of the Federation Council Committee on defense and security. "I believe, volunteers who come on their own to restore order are enough," the senator said, answering a question if additional mobilization is needed.
https://tass.com/politics/1464625

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2022.09.13 Mobilization in Russia is not on the current agenda, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the media. "At this moment - no, it is not on the agenda," Peskov said, when asked if the authorities were considering full or partial mobilization.
https://tass.com/politics/1506773

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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization in a televised address to the nation on Wednesday, pointing to the threats to the country’s existence posed by the West and the inevitable nature of the special military operation in Ukraine.
https://tass.com/politics/1510979

And........back to normal NO, NO, NO IT'S NOT TRUE

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Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov has dismissed media rumors there were plans for calling up for military service up to one million men under the current partial mobilization campaign.

"This is a lie," he told TASS.
https://tass.com/politics/1511743
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Old 23.09.2022, 10:51
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I'm a bit surprised that no feminist organization has complained that only men were called for the mobilization. Is gender equality not important in such cases?
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Old 23.09.2022, 17:09
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UA has plenty of volunteers, but they need training: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-a...for-ukrainians
Contrary to the claims in your link
"Ukrainian soldiers are receiving weapons training on military bases in Germany"

"Tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers have received training since 2014, and that pace has accelerated following Russia's unprovoked invasion in February. U.S. service members are providing Ukrainian soldiers with training on various weapons systems that we're providing to Ukraine"

"The Government has decided that the Swedish Armed Forces will send instructors to the UK to give Ukrainian citizens basic military training to enable them to serve in Ukraine’s armed forces. "

"Operation UNIFIER is the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) mission in support of the Security Forces of Ukraine. The operation’s focus is to assist with security force training. This will help them improve as well as build their capability and capacity to repel the Russian invasion. "
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Also, reports of a 35 km traffic jam at the Finnish border.
apparently finnish border guard has said its more fake news.
https://twitter.com/rajavartijat/sta...u_7qRUE7w&s=19
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Contrary to the claims in your link
not sure why you say contrary to the claims in the link. most of your links seem to confirm the claims in the original link.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Lots of reports of problems with the Russian mobilisation, protests, violence and rules about protected categories not followed. Whether this is just on the surface or pervasive is not yet known.
It has been admitted that war protestors have been mobilised, no doubt contributing to a motivated and high morale force also reports of people being sent home after mobilisation.
Putin's friend Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov stated in a live TV broadcast that the Republic of Chechnya will not conduct mobilization, what!
Kadyrov has a personal army of around 20 000 Kadyrov’s Chechen troops that he avoids sending to the frontline.

Rumours are the plan is to mobilise 1.2 million by November 10th but no public statements other than the 300,000.

The 1st GTA was one of Russia's most prestigious armies, assigned to defend Moscow and designed to conduct counterstrikes in the event of war with NATO, and is now reported to have been almost completely destroyed in Ukraine.
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I'm a bit surprised that no feminist organization has complained that only men were called for the mobilization. Is gender equality not important in such cases?
There are no feminist organisations in Russia. Russia lives by the Bible these days..
Ask Kirill.
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Old 24.09.2022, 15:13
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No doubt that will make things move much more smoothly

It is claimed the US Government and Elon Musk plan to install Starlink satellites over Iran to restore to Iran citizens uncensored internet access.
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It is claimed the US Government and Elon Musk plan to install Starlink satellites over Iran to restore to Iran citizens uncensored internet access.
US have lifted some internet sanctions. I do not believe they have agreed to let Starlink communications start for Iran yet.

I hope they do.
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Old 24.09.2022, 17:08
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US have lifted some internet sanctions. I do not believe they have agreed to let Starlink communications start for Iran yet.

I hope they do.
I do not know if it is true but I read it here
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Legal guidance by the American government on expanding internet services to Iranians was changed despite US sanctions on the country.
Here is one of the many videos circulating in Russia showing the rusty weapons given to the newly mobilised, this one has an English translation. If this is what the first batch gets then what can the later arrivals expect?
Strange how the Russians react with a mixture of anger and weary resignation.

This is what a Russian military blogger (Russian language) who is usually strongly supportive of Putin has to say "the next wave of mobilized, instead of rusty machine guns, will receive already rusty rifles".

And another Putin fan about the Belgorod region "The regional military commissar, Valeriy Hrytsay, has mobilized motivated people, who have been sitting at the motorsport complex for the third day without food, sleeping places, service, and clear prospects,"
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