World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? - Page 394

Axa · #**7861** 06.10.2022, 15:35

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Nothing here is related to morals, contrary to your recent burst of emotional outrage. It's good to see that you're starting to use your brains.

The typical words said by someone with an overexcitable moral sense. The inability to control the feeling of rightness or wrongness when contemplating the actions of other people. Hey, breath slowly, count to 10 and keep emotions under control, OK?

greenmount · #**7862** 06.10.2022, 17:43

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Nothing here is related to morals, contrary to your recent burst of emotional outrage. It's good to see that you're starting to use your brains.

Emotional outrage? You just had some....

Pragmatism is not the opposite of morality, btw. You can be pragmatic and make moral choices, unlike Russia now, for instance. This war hasn't been started by the West or the USA or whatever Kremlin narrative says. It's not the West killing Ukrainians.

It's high time to start using your brain and stop writing nonsense, otherwise you will be called out every and each time. And not by me.

marton · #**7863** 06.10.2022, 22:31

An English language map drawn by a Russian military blogger showing his view of Ukraine's next steps in Southern Kherson oblast and Zaporizhia Oblast. The broad arrows show the advances forecast.

Seems very over-optimistic to me but a million Russians follow this guy.

From a Russian newspaper

	Quote:
	The Armed Forces of Ukraine pulled more weapons into the Zaporizhzhia region than in the entire period of the Special operation. Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the regional administration called the number of weapons and militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in the Zaporozhye direction "impressive". https://military.pravda.ru/news/1756...hskaja_oblast/

So either Russia is playing some complex and inscrutable game or Ukraine really has big plans.
A push in this direction would make a lot of sense cutting into the land supply route to Crimea although the Kerch strait bridge still exists.

Urs Max · #**7864** 06.10.2022, 23:14

	Quote:	greenmount
	Emotional outrage? You just had some....

Not really.

	Quote:	greenmount
	It's high time to start using your* brain and stop writing nonsense, otherwise you will be called out every and each time. And not by me.*

Uhh, sounds like I'm supposed to be impressed now.

Are you alright? Blink twice if you can't speak freely.

greenmount · #**7865** 07.10.2022, 10:00

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Not really. Uhh, sounds like I'm supposed to be impressed now. Are you alright? Blink twice if you can't speak freely.

Is this the final word you are supposed to have in every discussion?

How infantile. Keep trying.

It is more than obvious that you have serious difficulties to admit the Russian invasion of Ukraine is wrong or immoral or whatever you want to call it. Russia behaves like a terrorist state and you have spent an awful lot of time here trying to somehow justify their actions in Ukraine. You and the other trolls.

Tell us if you're going to survive this reply.

Axa · #**7866** 07.10.2022, 12:40

	Quote:	greenmount
	Russia behaves like a terrorist state and you have spent an awful lot of time here trying to somehow justify their actions in Ukraine. You and the other trolls.

I don't think most of people are justifying the actions of Russia, save for 1 or 2 "real" trolls.

Most of the other guys are just from a certain generation that grew up with the idea that Russia is very strong and you don't mess with. The childhood and teenage angst is still there. When they talk about appeasing and conceding to Russia it's people with 1970s fear of the bomb.

I guess it will also happen to me one day. But, not yet.

Urs Max · #**7867** 07.10.2022, 12:57

	Quote:	greenmount
	It is more than obvious that you have serious difficulties to admit the Russian invasion of Ukraine is wrong or immoral or whatever you want to call it. Russia behaves like a terrorist state and you have spent an awful lot of time here trying to somehow justify their actions in Ukraine. You and the other trolls.

You're talking out of your arse, again. Scroll up and try reading what people post for once.

#**7868** 07.10.2022, 13:45

	Quote:
	The 2022 Peace Prize is awarded to human rights advocate Ales Bialiatski from Belarus, the Russian human rights organisation Memorial and the Ukrainian human rights organisation Center for Civil Liberties. The Peace Prize laureates represent civil society in their home countries. They have for many years promoted the right to criticise power and protect the fundamental rights of citizens. They have made an outstanding effort to document war crimes, human right abuses and the abuse of power. Together they demonstrate the significance of civil society for peace and democracy.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2022/summary/

greenmount · #**7869** 07.10.2022, 13:45

	Quote:	Axa
	I don't think most of people are justifying the actions of Russia, save for 1 or 2 "real" trolls. Most of the other guys are just from a certain generation that grew up with the idea that Russia is very strong and you don't mess with. The childhood and teenage angst is still there. When they talk about appeasing and conceding to Russia it's people with 1970s fear of the bomb. I guess it will also happen to me one day. But, not yet.

Slammer is definitely from that generation but even if I don't see eye to eye with him on many things he's written on this thread, I realised he's genuine, as in genuinely wrong. (because of what you've already explained) The others, like UM, defo trolling. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one.

Anyway, they're thrive on attention and dragging everyone else to their level so engaging with any of them is absolutely futile and non-constructive.

Axa · #**7870** 07.10.2022, 13:54

2-3 weeks ago Putin said something to stop Armenia-Azerbaijan fights and...(sound of crickets).

I've expected Turkey's Erdogan to occupy the space left by Putin's decaying power, but never expected these guys to show up and fill the void.

	Quote:
	The European Council says the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan have met on the sidelines of a summit in Prague and agreed to a civilian EU mission alongside their common border, where clashes last month killed more than 200 people in the worst flare-up of fighting between the two Caucasus neighbors since 2020. The council said in a statement on October 7 that Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinian and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev met in the presence of the EU Council President Charles Michel and French President Emmanuel Macron on the margins of the first gathering of the European Political Community. Pashinian agreed to “facilitate a civilian EU mission alongside the border with Azerbaijan,” according to the statement released early on October 7.

https://www.rferl.org/a/armenia-azer.../32069641.html

Quite probably Macron and the other EU guy cannot stop thinking about this:

Excad · #**7871** 07.10.2022, 13:57

	Quote:	Urs Max
	You're talking out of your arse, again. Scroll up and try reading what people post for once.

Just answer the man instead of vaguely reffering to somewhere inside roughly 400 pages of this thread.

I'm sure you know what you're talking about and if you truly know, then you are able to define it in simple words and few sentences. If it has worth, why not to share it?

LtSoftDrink · #**7872** 07.10.2022, 15:32

	Quote:	Axa
	I don't think most of people are justifying the actions of Russia, save for 1 or 2 "real" trolls. Most of the other guys are just from a certain generation that grew up with the idea that Russia is very strong and you don't mess with. The childhood and teenage angst is still there. When they talk about appeasing and conceding to Russia it's people with 1970s fear of the bomb. I guess it will also happen to me one day. But, not yet.

Sorry, apart from Vushka, at least recently, I don’t recognize any implicit/explicit support of Russian imperialism around here. Certainly not going to scroll through [insert qualifier of choice] previous mess of posts on this thread.
And BTW "…childhood and teenage angst is still there" - seriously? Are we trying to decipher global politics or an article in a teen magazine? I think "it" has happened to you a while ago - you just didn't notice

Axa · #**7873** 07.10.2022, 15:57

	Quote:	LtSoftDrink
	Sorry, apart from Vushka, at least recently, I don’t recognize any implicit/explicit support of Russian imperialism around here. Certainly not going to scroll through [insert qualifier of choice] previous mess of posts on this thread. And BTW "…childhood and teenage angst is still there" - seriously? Are we trying to decipher global politics or an article in a teen magazine? I think "it" has happened to you a while ago - you just didn't notice

The whole sister thread titled "Russian nuclear attack on Ukraine" is distilled angst and fear. Nothing wrong with that, better to let it out than suffering in silence.

hahaha, what I hope had not happened yet is living in the past. I want to believe I still open the eyes and the ears to current events. Among those current events is Russia regime going down once again.

LtSoftDrink · #**7874** 07.10.2022, 15:57

	Quote:	greenmount
	Slammer is definitely from that generation but even if I don't see eye to eye with him on many things he's written on this thread, I realised he's genuine, as in genuinely wrong. (because of what you've already explained) The others, like UM, defo trolling. I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one. Anyway, they're thrive on attention and dragging everyone else to their level so engaging with any of them is absolutely futile and non-constructive.

I’d really proclaim it, a day of peace, if you would stop trying to act relevant to WTF-ever and accusing other posters of exactly your own behaviour: attention seeking/virtuous willie waving and as an aside: ignoring direct questions) - but we've all been there, right?

Category: Ageist who likes to accuse others of pro-Russian sympathies and …

marton · #**7875** 07.10.2022, 16:04

	Quote:	LtSoftDrink
	Sorry, apart from Vushka, at least recently, I don’t recognize any implicit/explicit support of Russian imperialism around here. Certainly not going to scroll through [insert qualifier of choice] previous mess of posts on this thread. And BTW "…childhood and teenage angst is still there" - seriously? Are we trying to decipher global politics or an article in a teen magazine? I think "it" has happened to you a while ago - you just didn't notice

Basing your view of no implicit/explicit support of Russian imperialism without reading the relevant posts so not credible.

LtSoftDrink · #**7876** 07.10.2022, 16:10

	Quote:	marton
	Basing your view of no implicit/explicit support of Russian imperialism without reading the relevant posts so not credible.

Please be as kind to point out relevant posts other than the infamous V that should be taken into consideration to increase your own credibility…

marton · #**7877** 07.10.2022, 16:30

	Quote:	LtSoftDrink
	Please be as kind to point out relevant posts other than the infamous V* that should be taken into consideration to increase your own credibility…*

Would you also like a cup of hot chocolate at bedtime?

Ato · #**7878** 07.10.2022, 16:40

	Quote:	LtSoftDrink
	Please be as kind to point out relevant posts other than the infamous V* that should be taken into consideration to increase your own credibility…*

	Quote:	marton
	Would you also like a cup of hot chocolate at bedtime?

The infamous Vicks Vaporub AND hot chocolate?

Monsieur, with these posts you're really spoiling us.

LtSoftDrink · #**7879** 07.10.2022, 16:49

	Quote:	marton
	Would you also like a cup of hot chocolate at bedtime?

If you’re a young attractive female - sure! As I suspect it’s the opposite - soon your grooming activities will be exposed! In short, no - no to Bournville - certainly not from you

vushka · #**7880** 07.10.2022, 17:32

despite ukrainian authorities denying it and stating it was russian propaganda, us intelligence now believes that ukraine was behind the murder of darya dugina, daughter of a russian philosopher who was believed to be the target.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/05/p...-assassination