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07.10.2022, 19:12
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
It's kind of sad that they were able to pull this off - but yet blew up the wrong vehicle.
Though, of course, it depends on what the objective was to begin with.
Killing the kids and letting the parents alive is a common intimidation tactic of organized crime.
If the US (and Russia) can do targeted killings in foreign countries, who says other nation-states can't?
Or is there another UN-carta that the US hasn't signed?
;-)
Personally, I'm more worried about all the oligarchs being killed. That's some serious cleansing.
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07.10.2022, 19:50
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07.10.2022, 22:10
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | We must be nice to Musk while he is providing Starlink internet service to Ukraine. | | | | | As I feared | Quote: |  | | | ⚡️ FT: Ukrainian troops report Starlink outages, hindering counteroffensive.
Ukrainian troops have encountered issues with Starlink communication devices on the frontline, leading to a “catastrophic” loss in communication, reports Financial Times, citing Ukrainian officials. | | | | | I hope Musk is not playing dangerous games.
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08.10.2022, 00:58
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | As I feared
I hope Musk is not playing dangerous games. | | | | | given his temper tantrum over the thailand rescue case, it would not surprise me. but hopefully a case of UA running so fast into previously RU controlled space that they are falling foul of the blocks that were in place on RU.
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08.10.2022, 10:34
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63183404
Like a candle on Putin's birthday cake.
I. Am. Touched.
That's a start of a good weekend for ya there | The following 4 users would like to thank Excad for this useful post: | | 
08.10.2022, 13:38
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Though, of course, it depends on what the objective was to begin with.
Killing the kids and letting the parents alive is a common intimidation tactic of organized crime.
. | | | | | Indeed, that's how Russia operates in Ukraine now.
I wonder if EU politicians supporting Russia agree with what they see there. Alliance for Germany especially. Do they like those blood stained money? I don't have any intel on that. I suppose money don't smell, eh. | Quote: | |  | | | As I feared
I hope Musk is not playing dangerous games. | | | | | And here I am thinking that the character of Peter Isherwell in that black satirical comedy "Don't Look Up" is shaped after him... | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
08.10.2022, 13:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Quite interesting. Apparently, Ukraine has also attacked a rail fuel depot in Donetsk that serves the railway lines to the South. So I guess this all related to the Kherson offensive.
Vova must be fuming.
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08.10.2022, 14:23
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | three civilians confirmed dead.
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08.10.2022, 14:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | three civilians confirmed dead. | | | | | Terrorism, huh?
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08.10.2022, 14:57
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | three civilians confirmed dead. | | | | | What civilians, random civilians? What were they doing there? Transporting fuel to keep the oppression machine running?
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08.10.2022, 15:00
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Random civilians? What were they doing there? | | | | | Well, there was obviously some traffic on the bridge. There is footage of the explosion which shows a few trucks and cars.
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08.10.2022, 15:27
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Quite interesting. Apparently, Ukraine has also attacked a rail fuel depot in Donetsk that serves the railway lines to the South. So I guess this all related to the Kherson offensive.
Vova must be fuming. | | | | | From the BBC News article below quoting a tweet from Ukraine's MOD. ' The guided missile cruiser Moskva and the Kerch bridge, two symbols of Russian power in Ukrainian Crimea have gone'. BBC News - Crimean bridge: Excitement and fear in Ukraine after bridge blast | 
08.10.2022, 16:29
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Some time ago I read the Kersch Strait bridge was a prime target for Ukraine but they had nothing powerful enough in their arsenal to damage the bridge with a remote attack, it would need a tomahawk cruise missile or similar.
Consequently, I lean towards the idea that explosives were attached to the bridge. Looking at the damage it must have been well planned, pity the rail bridge was not so damaged, good close up video here.
As I posted earlier blocking military supplies to Crimea would be difficult due to that bridge.
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08.10.2022, 17:16
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Meanwhile over in the Kremlin, Vladimir Putin gets a tractor on his 70th birthday which will no doubt prove useful in retrieving his abandoned tanks in Ukraine before the Ukrainian farmers get them, Lol !! BBC News - Vladimir Putin gets a tractor for his 70th birthday | The following 2 users would like to thank John William for this useful post: | | 
08.10.2022, 17:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Terrorism, huh? | | | | | well its obviously sad when civilians are killed. in this case i believe it was a husband and wife. but alls fair in love and war so it is what it is.
i just always find it interesting that statements such as "pointing at someone else after you've done something wrong and crying like a schoolkid "They did it as well" doesn't make your screw up any more morally right" seem like they only apply to one side of the war. | Quote: | |  | | | Killing the kids and letting the parents alive is a common intimidation tactic of organized crime. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Indeed, that's how Russia operates in Ukraine now. | | | | | ...
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08.10.2022, 17:31
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | well its obviously sad when civilians are killed. in this case i believe it was a husband and wife. but alls fair in love and war so it is what it is.
i just always find it interesting that statements such as "pointing at someone else after you've done something wrong and crying like a schoolkid "They did it as well" doesn't make your screw up any more morally right" seem like they only apply to one side of the war.
... | | | | | Is this why I have seen so many posts from you about Ukrainian civil casualties? I believe there were 17 in Zaporizhzhia in the last days.
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08.10.2022, 17:52
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | all im saying is either they should both be condemned or they should both be condoned. stones in glass houses and all that.
well if the first kid didn't get punished and got to kept whatever he stole and then suddenly he's condemning other people for stealing its known as 'hypocrisy'. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | well its obviously sad when civilians are killed. in this case i believe it was a husband and wife. but alls fair in love and war so it is what it is.
i just always find it interesting that statements such as "pointing at someone else after you've done something wrong and crying like a schoolkid "They did it as well" doesn't make your screw up any more morally right" seem like they only apply to one side of the war.
... | | | | | Perhaps you (or your stand-ins) should take the time to scroll back a day or two before declaring your very own behaviour "interesting"
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08.10.2022, 22:08
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Putin getting desperate and making irrational changes while trying to divert the blame for the military disaster.
It is claimed Sergei Shoigu, Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation has resigned along with Valery Vasilyevich Gerasimov, the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and First Deputy Minister of defense.
Yesterday was Putin's 70th and here is a picture of his birthday cake. | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
09.10.2022, 10:07
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | That must be a real letdown for "Vova".
In 2006 he got the assassination of Anna Politkovskaya as a ...birthday present! Exactly on 7th of October.
For those who either don't know or pretend they don't know who this lady was, perhaps you should read her book "Putin's Russia".
Or about Politkovskaya's biography, or what she wrote about the first and the second Chechen wars which she documented risking her life, health, and ultimately....her life.
I wonder what he'll get next year. And the year after the next year....and so on.
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09.10.2022, 11:30
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The Kirch Strait Bridge has three lanes, two road, and a rail track.
The explosion severely damaged one road lane requiring three spans to be replaced.
Russia believes the one remaining road lane may have been weakened so are not allowing heavy trucks. The rail part only has superficial damage so will likely continue to transport heavy military equipment.
The repairs will probably take at least two months depending on how much of the equipment needed to fabricate the road spans is still in place.
Difficult to see how a 25m long truck could damage three spans each 35/40m but if it was sabotage why hit only one lane.
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