World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? - Page 404

michaelglavinci · #**8061** 17.10.2022, 02:10

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	Well I don't think anyone "applauds every instance of support" do they? By the same token, there's no harm in a show of solidarity, is there? Must be fairly grim for the average Ukrainian right now. A glimmer of support from the outside world might keep the hope alive that they aren't totally alone in this. Empathy is what makes us human.

oh well, that 'glimmer of support from the outside world' (i.e. west) brought them exactly to where they are now.

ShirleyNot · #**8062** 17.10.2022, 08:25

	Quote:	michaelglavinci
	oh well, that 'glimmer of support from the outside world' (i.e. west) brought them exactly to where they are now.

What exactly do you think I was referring to when I use the term ‘glimmer of support’?

Chuff · #**8063** 17.10.2022, 08:46

	Quote:	Skater
	2 shooters killed 11 people and wounded 15, before they were taken out by a sniper. Doesn’t look like a fighting. The rest of the mobilized soldiers probably never seen a gun before and were not able to shoot back, otherwise they would have killed these two guys much earlier.

People purposefully shooting at each other within the same army is classed as internal conflict and in-fighting and only a fool or a completely disingenuous person would say otherwise.

Ato · #**8064** 17.10.2022, 10:48

	Quote:	michaelglavinci
	Neither do you (have a clue). You see parallels between Serbia and Russia - but do you see parallels when it comes to territorial integrity of Serbia - who Slovenia, as just one of examples, blatantly violated? (by the way, in English it is 'in the West' and 'on everything'. Not vice-versa).

I know this is a bit off topic, When did Slovenia violate Serbia's territory? They don't even share a border.

#**8065** 17.10.2022, 11:00

	Quote:	Chuff
	People purposefully shooting at each other within the same army is classed as internal conflict and in-fighting and only a fool or a completely disingenuous person would say otherwise.

Whether you like it or not, such events are called shootings, or mass shootings.

A few of examples for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/06/u...rnd/index.html

vushka · #**8066** 17.10.2022, 14:28

	Quote:	Chuff
	Tell me why what I wrote in those quotes isn't true, because I can give you solid reasons why they are based on tangible evidence. Vushka is self-explanatory and his many, many poisonous posts are recorded for all to see. Musk has engaged in a catalogue of highly erratic and highly compulsive and negative behaviour over the last years which has all been covered by the media in great detail and is usually recorded on social media for all to see. In this case I am very sure my "worlds worst amateur pschologist" assessments match with the evidence.

i can still remember when you trawled through my posts like a deranged stalker and made the deduction that i was the user 'mikers' before a mod corrected you and politely suggested you need to get a life

so it seems you can add "worlds worst amateur detective" to your CV as well.

michaelglavinci · #**8067** 17.10.2022, 14:34

	Quote:	Ato
	I know this is a bit off topic, When did Slovenia violate Serbia's territory? They don't even share a border.

Kosovo rings a bell?

greenmount · #**8068** 17.10.2022, 14:48

	Quote:	michaelglavinci
	oh well, that 'glimmer of support from the outside world' (i.e. west) brought them exactly to where they are now.

Not Russia invading Ukraine?

Putin thought they'll capitulate in 3 days because everybody there loves Russia and it's only Mr. Zelensky and his team who are some fascists in charge over there...surprise surprise Ukrainians proved to be really tough cookies to crack.

In my opinion, even if they get weapons and other type of help it's still just them, this heroic people who fight against Russian imperialism. I mean, you have to be blind not to see this a David vs. Goliath type of fight.

Chuff · #**8069** 17.10.2022, 14:57

	Quote:	vushka
	i can still remember when you trawled through my posts like a deranged stalker and made the deduction that i was the user 'mikers' before a mod corrected you and politely suggested you need to get a life so it seems you can add "worlds worst amateur detective" to your CV as well.

The amateur detective work may not have been correct (though it's still a bit of a coincidence), but the amateur psychologist work most certainly was and I stand by every word.

vushka · #**8070** 17.10.2022, 15:04

	Quote:	greenmount
	In my opinion, even if they get weapons and other type of help it's still just them, this heroic people who fight against Russian imperialism. I mean, you have to be blind not to see this a David vs. Goliath type of fight

russia vs. the combined financial might of the western world!

greenmount · #**8071** 17.10.2022, 15:10

	Quote:	vushka
	russia vs. the whole western world!

Do you really believe that?

LtSoftDrink · #**8072** 17.10.2022, 15:11

	Quote:	vushka
	so it seems you can add "worlds worst amateur detective" to your CV as well.

Actually, I disapprove of awarding certain posters any kind of awards - bear in mind: your posts often get deleted in a chain reaction when the mods notice a tantrum all by themselves

LtSoftDrink · #**8073** 17.10.2022, 15:22

	Quote:	Chuff
	The amateur detective work may not have been correct (though it's still a bit of a coincidence), but the amateur psychologist work most certainly was and I stand by every word.

You can of course stand by whatever you like. I, and nearly every other amateur psychologist, sincerely regret the disrepute showered upon us, the slightly more balanced members of our craft, thanks to you not really being able to keep certain body parts distinct from each other…

rainer_d · #**8074** 17.10.2022, 16:14

	Quote:	Buenzli
	Perhaps because Musk proposed a "peace agreement" which met with a middle finger from a Ukrainian ambassador, and everybody assumes the Starlink financing become and issue directly thereafter.

Well, at least he would profit from peace it seems.

Peace ain't good for Lockheed-Martin shareholders (and execs) however.

It's equally telling and perverted that nobody talks about that. While there's talk to tax the excess-profits of energy companies, there's no talk about taxing the defense-companies for their entirely tax-payer (current and future generations) funded extra profits.

War should never be profitable. On neither side.

Urs Max · #**8075** 17.10.2022, 16:20

	Quote:	vushka
	i can still remember when you trawled through my posts like a deranged stalker and made the deduction that i was the user 'mikers' before a mod corrected you and politely suggested you need to get a life so it seems you can add "worlds worst amateur detective" to your CV as well.

That wouldn't have been feasible if only you posted more.

It's all your fault

LtSoftDrink · #**8076** 17.10.2022, 16:25

	Quote:	rainer_d
	War should* never be profitable. On neither side.*

Guess why wars are waged - to the perceived advantage/profit of various parties involved, perhaps?

Tom1234 · #**8077** 17.10.2022, 17:00

	Quote:	rainer_d
	War should never be profitable. On neither side.

Too right. Only 'neutral' countries should profit from war!

robBob · #**8078** 17.10.2022, 17:05

	Quote:	LtSoftDrink
	Guess why wars are waged - to the perceived advantage/profit of various parties involved, perhaps?

Could be more to do with getting tax payers to bring profit to a few interested parties.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-cost-iraq-war

LtSoftDrink · #**8079** 17.10.2022, 17:17

	Quote:	robBob
	Could be more to do with getting tax payers to bring profit to a few interested parties. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-cost-iraq-war

Well, various/few interested parties - big difference…
…and how else are corrupt individuals/corporations/governments supposed to profit if not from fleecing the tax payers?

Reb77Br · #**8080** 17.10.2022, 17:35

Remember the Russian journalist who held up an anti-war slogan during a news broadcast? She has apparently fled Russia and is on a wanted list.

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	16:14 Anti-war protest journalist flees Russia A Russian journalist who became famous after holding an anti-war slogan during a live TV news broadcast in Moscow has fled the country. According to her lawyer, Marina Ovsyannikova left Russia with her daughter two weeks ago, hours after escaping house arrest. She made international headlines in March when she held a protest sign reading "no war" while standing behind the newsreader during the flagship evening broadcast on state-controlled Channel 1 news. Ovsyannikova was later fined by the authorities for "discrediting" the Russian military, under a new law passed shortly after the invasion of Ukraine. Her lawyer says the pair were in Europe now and would talk to the press as soon as it was safe. The former producer for the Kremlin-run TV channel has been put on a wanted list. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63282756