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marton · #**8201** 29.10.2022, 22:29

These are claimed to be videos from drone boats attacking Sevastopol.

greenmount · #**8202** 30.10.2022, 08:13

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Keep digging.

Says the one who brings up some random data and is sure he won some "argument" on the internet.

Maybe you should help out those refugees instead because they didn't leave their homes just for the sake of it.

michaelglavinci · #**8203** 30.10.2022, 11:42

	Quote:	greenmount
	Almost as fast as our own Kremlin trolls on EF.

Unlike Causesku trolls?

greenmount · #**8204** 30.10.2022, 11:58

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	Possible but pretty unlikely. You have the Americans with the motive, the ability, and also the public statements that they will do it (even Polish foreign minister posted a Thank you to the US on Twitter). As well as boats and helicopters at the precise location where the attack took place. All the circumstantial evidence points there. I suspect it would have been US planned and facilitated operation but ideally with Ukrainian actually committing the direct act to avoid further escalation/broadening. Someone told me that a German minister remarked that they know who did it but will not say due to national security - but I couldn't find any details to confirm this. As the biggest attack on EU energy infrastructure, there has been remarkably little noise made about it. Investigations that have been carried out have been quietly filed away without details being made public.

As if it counts who did it anyway...for some reason they chose to put the blame on UK and I wonder why. Maybe because even if UK has changed the prime-ministers so often lately, absolutely everyone and each of them has shown a total support to Ukraine.

Including Sunak !! I suppose Putin was disappointed with the choice of the new prime-minister?

marton · #**8205** 30.10.2022, 12:00

	Quote:	michaelglavinci
	Unlike Causesku trolls?

but what about Kosovo

michaelglavinci · #**8206** 30.10.2022, 12:41

	Quote:	marton
	but what about Kosovo

What about Kosovo?

marton · #**8207** 30.10.2022, 15:31

Russia is now complaining about Ukraine attacking their naval ships that were innocently moored in Sevastopol and firing cruise missiles at Ukraine civilians.

Ukraine sources claim " “at least three Russian Kaliber missile carrier ships were damaged. Among them is the Admiral Makarov frigate." No satellite confirmation. Others claim just one minesweeper was damaged.

Photo of Svestapol the morning after and of a typical Ukraine drone boat.

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Urs Max · #**8208** 30.10.2022, 16:33

	Quote:	marton
	Russia is now complaining about Ukraine attacking their naval ships that were innocently moored in Sevastopol and firing cruise missiles at Ukraine civilians. Ukraine sources claim " “at least three Russian Kaliber missile carrier ships were damaged. Among them is the Admiral Makarov frigate." No satellite confirmation. Others claim just one minesweeper was damaged. Photo of Svestapol the morning after and of a typical Ukraine drone boat.

I guess the core point isn't so much the amount of damage but that RU's main port is now in reach of UA. Just like the Neptun missiles force RU's warships away from the coast, this will reduce RU's options some more.

Who knows, maybe that even enables additional attacks on the Crimea bridge, the railtracks may well be weak targets.

Axa · #**8209** 31.10.2022, 10:28

Day 249 of special military operation: Hero of the Russia Federation is sent to waste disposal. Internal power struggle is very interesting.

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	MOSCOW, July 4./TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on Monday conferring the Hero of Russia title on Major General Esedulla Abachev and Colonel General Alexander Lapin, who distinguished themselves during the liberation of the Lugansk People’s Republic. "To confer the Hero of the Russian Federation title on Abachev Esedulla Abdulmuminovich - Major General, and Lapin Alexander Pavlovich - Colonel General, for courage and heroism they displayed in performing the military duty," reads the decree, posted on the web portal of legal information.

https://tass.com/society/1475521

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	Russian President Vladimir Putin has deposed a general whom he had honored as a hero just a few weeks ago because of his military successes. Colonel-General Alexander Lapin (58) has been relieved of his post as commander of the "central" Russian forces in Ukraine. This was initially reported by Russian military bloggers and a TV station in Chechnya, according to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW). The Study of War was initially unable to independently confirm reports of Lapin's sacking, but the spate of conflicting reports may indicate the Kremlin is struggling to control reporting on its higher military command, according to ISW. Some reports suggested that Lapin had resigned of his own accord. Chechnya's President Ramzan Kadyrov and the head of the Wagner mercenaries Yevgeny Prigozhin had blamed Colonel-General Lapin for the Russian defeat in Lyman and called for his "punishment". Lapin's dismissal was later confirmed by the Ria Novosti agency. The military colonel was chief of staff of Russia's troops in Syria.

https://de.euronews.com/2022/10/31/r...r-ihm-in-der-u

marton · #**8210** 31.10.2022, 13:46

Putin will dump anybody and everybody to avoid getting the blame for the war failures.

Kadyrov and Prigozhin both have private militias so could both turn on Putin with little to fear so are likely safe.

marton · #**8211** 31.10.2022, 22:21

Confirmed reports of explosions in Sebastopol tonight, no idea what is happening.

It was clear last time that the Russians did not follow the usual wartime practice of blocking their naval harbour entrances with netting and cables, maybe they still do not.

Now the Russian occupiers in Crimea claim they will start to nationalise Ukraine businesses with no compensation, everywhere else that tried this finished up with huge compensation claims that eventually they had to pay.

marton · #**8212** 01.11.2022, 15:00

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	Russian President Vladimir Putin said the grain deal was being suspended, citing the "massive" drone attack on its fleet in the port of Sevastopol that he alleged Kyiv was responsible for. He said maritime safety must be ensured and that implementing grain exports under such conditions was too risky.

Fully laden grain ships still leaving Ukraine ports under Turkish protection, under the deal Turkey is the guarantor of ship safety and the Turkish navy is far more powerful than whatever is left of the Russian Black Sea fleet.

It is not clear Putin has the right to unilaterally suspend the deal anyway.

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	Russia launched a barrage of missile strikes at Ukrainian cities on Monday as it ramped up its attacks on infrastructure facilities across the country. Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday that the onslaught was “partly” a response to an attack on Russia’s fleet in the Crimean city of Sevastopol on Saturday, which he blamed on Kyiv.

From the size of the Russian responses, it seems the damage in Sevastopol was far more than admitted.

Finally, it is claimed that "At the Russian military airfield in the Russian Pskov region, two Ка-52 attack helicopters have been destroyed, and two more have suffered damage". Probably just caused by a carelessly thrown away cigarette

Urs Max · #**8213** 01.11.2022, 16:59

	Quote:	marton
	It is not clear Putin has the right to unilaterally suspend the deal anyway.

It runs out sometime mid-November, though there's the built-in option to extend it (which requires explicit consent).

marton · #**8214** 01.11.2022, 17:24

	Quote:	Urs Max
	It runs out sometime mid-November, though there's the built-in option to extend it (which requires explicit consent).

The deal to resume Black Sea exports involves two separate agreements:
One between Ukraine and Turkey covering grain exports from Ukraine,
and one between Russia and Turkey covering food and fertilizer exports from Russia.
Under the Ukraine agreement, safe passage of export ships would be allowed from the ports of Odesa, Chornomorsk, and Pivdennyi.
Under its agreement with Turkey, Russia gets assurances that its exports of food and fertilizer will not be affected by export sanctions.

So has Russia stopped exporting food and fertilizer? I don't know.

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	Turkey says it is determined that Ukraine continue its food exports despite Russia suspending its participation in a United Nations-brokered grain deal.

Seems it comes down to Russia vs Turkey and who has the biggest one.

So will Russia fire on merchant ships protected by Turkish escorts? And what happens when Turkey shoots back?

Axa · #**8215** 01.11.2022, 17:40

	Quote:	marton
	So has Russia stopped exporting food and fertilizer? I don't know.

Add Brazil to the mix, they import a lot of fertilizer from Russia.

Urs Max · #**8216** 01.11.2022, 20:26

	Quote:	marton
	So has Russia stopped exporting food and fertilizer? I don't know.

Not sure if that part actually worked, reportedly Russia kept complaining about problems (probably in no small part due to the sanctions).

I'd guess that foreign shipping companies can't do business with Russia for the same reason, and even if they could they won't be able to get insurance, so volume looks to be limited by whatever capacity Russia may have left.

Axa · #**8217** 02.11.2022, 13:03

And....another wall is being built. Time to read more about the Cold War.

	Quote:
	Poland begins building new wall along border with Russia’s Kaliningrad

https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/02/...as-kaliningrad

marton · #**8218** 02.11.2022, 13:33

It is all theatre anyway

" Russia has said it will resume participation in the Black Sea grain deal that ensures safe passage for ships carrying vital food exports from Ukraine after receiving “guarantees.” "

Proves Erdogan has the biggest one, he was intending to escort grain ships away from Ukraine whether Putin agreed or not."

Urs Max · #**8219** 02.11.2022, 22:18

	Quote:	marton
	Proves Erdogan has the biggest one, he was intending to escort grain ships away from Ukraine whether Putin agreed or not."

I find that most remarkable - first the TB-2, now this.

Erdogan appears to be distancing Türkiye from Russia.

marton · #**8220** 02.11.2022, 22:31

	Quote:	Urs Max
	I find that most remarkable - first the TB-2, now this. Erdogan appears to be distancing Türkiye from Russia.

Presumably, Erdogan sees Putin as weakened and is trying to maneuver to take advantage. Similar to how China is expanding its influence in Central Asia countries like Kazakhstan and the West is trying to become the best friend to former Soviet East Europe countries.