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17.12.2022, 01:04
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The "elite" in both Saudi and the US is only interested in filling their pockets.
If by the culture you mean alcohol drinking then in my time the causeway linking Saudi Arabia to Bahrain was lined at night with Saudi Rolls Royces sleeping off their Bahrain alcohol.
If you mean religion then there is little difference between Muslims and evangelicals on topics like LGBTQ, gay marriage, adultery, science, and trying to fit rules written over a thousand years ago to today's world. | | | | | What do Iranians, Serbs etc living abroad, of which EF-ers are a particular shade.. hope to win by siding with Russia?
Thinking more of it, it's unsurprising to see all this support for Russia and dislike for other countries but pretending they're objective is absolutely hilarious. | Quote: | |  | | | Ok, so we established that you don't care.
When would you start to care? When Poland would be annexed? Or only when Austria? Does the war need to be by your direct border to start caring? | | | | | At this point I think asking this question here (and any further dialogue) is futile....you'll have the same few people taking turns in exposing the same views, same ideas, basically pro-Russia and anti-Ukraine, as if Ukraine has provoked this war not the other way around. It is absurd and feeding this thread is absolutely useless.
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17.12.2022, 10:27
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | can't really blame MBS given all of Biden's pre-election posturing. Biden made a lot of noise over it and basically snubbed him and only came crawling to beg for oil.
the reality is that US and Saudi's are intertwined for business reasons only. US has not much in common with values or culture. they're happy to overlook and keep quiet human rights abuses there to keep oil flow and keep selling arms to them.
China can do business with Saudis and Russians and are happy to leave the politics out of it. | | | | | Another example of US selective moral high ground. They sell weapons to a country they purportedly dislike to bomb another country they don’t care about (Yemen)
I guess they at least make back money for some of the free sh** they give out to Ukraine
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17.12.2022, 12:22
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Another example of US selective moral high ground. They sell weapons to a country they purportedly dislike to bomb another country they don’t care about (Yemen)
I guess they at least make back money for some of the free sh** they give out to Ukraine | | | | | Yes, Trump has a lot to answer for.
Biden has only sold air defense weapons to Saudi which are useless to bomb other countries.
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18.12.2022, 17:23
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | What a creep indeed. I didn't now who this character was before.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin
Thank you, Russia. 
As for the tools who still dare to defend Russia's actions in any way, shape or form, I hope you'll all live there. Put your money where your mouth is. That's it. | | | | | Strong anti-Russian Government and war TV interview by Igor Girkin who believes when Russia loses the war he will be taken to the Hague and hanged (his own words) Video (Engish subtitles)
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20.12.2022, 21:59
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: |  | | | Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has visited the frontline city of Bakhmut, in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine, where Ukrainian and Russian forces have been locked in brutal battle for months. Video posted by state TV shows the president clad in fatigues and a flak vest presenting awards to troops. | | | | | Putin will never visit his "annexed" territories.
"Annexed" in quotes because Putin does not actually occupy those territories which is a prerequisite of annexation.
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20.12.2022, 22:28
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Putin will never visit his "annexed" territories.
"Annexed" in quotes because Putin does not actually occupy those territories which is a prerequisite of annexation. | | | | | Seems like Putin doesn't visit any place closer than 500km to the front line. He's a bit like General Melchett | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
21.12.2022, 10:47
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Putin will never visit his "annexed" territories.
"Annexed" in quotes because Putin does not actually occupy those territories which is a prerequisite of annexation. | | | | |
He did visit the Crimea-Bridge recently. In a Mercedes, driving himself (the last meters at least).
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21.12.2022, 10:49
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | He did visit the Crimea-Bridge recently. In a Mercedes, driving himself (the last meters at least). | | | | | It's a bit hard to be picked off by a sniper in the middle of that bridge.
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21.12.2022, 11:15
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | It's a bit hard to be picked off by a sniper in the middle of that bridge. | | | | | I think Putin is much more worried about getting killed by his own rather than by the Ukrainians. All this royal ridiculousness with him living in a bunker, faking movies with him copy-pasted and using a football sized table to meet people just shows how cognizant he is of the deep $hit he put himself into.
Which is also one of the reasons why Zelenski is winning hearts and minds in the world by showing up in the most dangerous areas of the war, talking to soldiers and not missing the opportunity to show the difference between him and a 15th century paranoid, aggressive and detached from reality monarch
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21.12.2022, 15:44
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I think Putin is much more worried about getting killed by his own rather than by the Ukrainians. All this royal ridiculousness with him living in a bunker, faking movies with him copy-pasted and using a football sized table to meet people just shows how cognizant he is of the deep $hit he put himself into.
Which is also one of the reasons why Zelenski is winning hearts and minds in the world by showing up in the most dangerous areas of the war, talking to soldiers and not missing the opportunity to show the difference between him and a 15th century paranoid, aggressive and detached from reality monarch | | | | | And from the infamous Igor Girkin | Quote: |  | | | How to raise morale:
Zelensky flew to Bakhmut (Artemovsk) and rewarded his soldiers fighting at the front against us. (One must think that during the visit of a high-ranking partner in Kyiv, Wagner suspended military operations).
But Vladimir Vladimirovich rewards his heroes right in the Kremlin... Look at these honest courageous faces, admire the proud posture of the heroes. Well, who motivated their soldiers and officials to continue the battle better? - For me, the answer is obvious. - The entire Donetsk People's Republic, which adores its Head Denis Vladimirovich just a little less than Vladimir Vladimirovich, is in ecstasy and ready for new great achievements ... | | | | | | 
22.12.2022, 17:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
PooTin's new order to increase the army by 500'000 is going to go down like a fart in an elevator amongst the Russian population. Stories from the meat grinder must be circulating, and eligible Moscovites (and their direct families) won't want to swallow that.
The more the West maintain their resolve, the greater chance PooTin's support back home will crumble.
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22.12.2022, 17:51
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? Russia-supporting Wagner Group mercenary numbers soar | Quote: |  | | | Fighters from Russia's mercenary Wagner Group have ballooned from 1,000 to nearly 20,000 in Ukraine, British government officials say, a sign of Russia's growing reliance on the military contractor in support of its invasion.
Russia is widely believed to be struggling to recruit soldiers and maintain morale. The West estimates Russia has lost tens of thousands of soldiers and President Vladimir Putin launched a recruitment drive in September to boost numbers.
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Wagner's inflated ranks are linked to its targeted recruitment of convicts in Russian prisons.
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A recent UK defence intelligence assessment highlighted Wagner's tactics. It said Wagner was using large numbers of poorly trained convicts - which it viewed as expendable. It said they were likely given just a specific, limited objective - like assaulting a building - without being allowed to deviate from the plan.
The UK intelligence assessment said those who deviated were likely threatened with summary execution.
UK officials say needless and indiscriminate violence is a hallmark of the group. Wagner recently released a video of one of its members bludgeoning an alleged deserter to death.
Which underlines the other significant change in Wagner's approach - it's now actively courting publicity and promoting the brand.
In July Wagner launched its own channel on the social media platform Telegram.
In September it opened up a glitzy new headquarters in St Petersburg - named "PMC Wagner Centre". It said it was for "the generation of new ideas in order to increase the defence capabilities of Russia, including the sphere of information".
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So far there's little evidence that Russia's proxy army Wagner is any better than its own regular armed forces. | | | | | | 
22.12.2022, 23:06
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Good article here about the Wagner group.
About the dispute between Wagner's leader Prigozhin and the St. Petersburg Governor, how much (or how little) power does Prigozhin have.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | PooTin's new order to increase the army by 500'000 is going to go down like a fart in an elevator amongst the Russian population. Stories from the meat grinder must be circulating, and eligible Moscovites (and their direct families) won't want to swallow that.
The more the West maintain their resolve, the greater chance PooTin's support back home will crumble. | | | | | And a relevant comment from the infamous Igor Girkin (Russian language) | Quote: |  | | | Why not just immediately rename ("fifty-fifty") all infantrymen into paratroopers and marines? This will certainly increase their combat capability, do I understand correctly?
For some reason it seems to me that an unfortunate mistake crept into the text of the minister's speech: he says "reform", when it should be "renamed".
First, because renaming is much faster.
Yesterday there was a brigade - and today there is already a division! Beautiful, huh?!?
And we do not need a large number of trained officers and soldiers, nor a mass of additional military equipment ...
We are renaming companies into battalions, battalions into regiments, regiments into brigades, and brigades into divisions.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine will immediately and without a fight capitulate when they understand what force is opposing them | | | | | | 
23.12.2022, 13:39
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Over a few beers with engineering colleagues, the topic of railway track width came up. Having the same standard as Russia makes it easy for Russia to use your own railway system for war logistics.
I go online and find this. Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova and Ukraine have this issue. From the list, Finland is the huge WTF?. Independent since about a century ago, but apparently not enough time to fix some things. | 
23.12.2022, 14:02
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23.12.2022, 14:12
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Don't tell the Spanish that...their Talgo train has been dynamically changing gauge since 1969 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_gauge
Where the Swiss system is novel is the extreme gauge change...1000mm to 1435mm. For this they simply ditched through axles.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | ah but the UK is one step ahead. they drive on the left side of the road and thus renders the uk road network invulnerable to Russian subversion!
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23.12.2022, 15:47
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | ah but the UK is one step ahead. they drive on the left side of the road and thus renders the uk road network invulnerable to Russian subversion! | | | | | Oh yes the British are cunning in fact during the Cold War, in the event of a Soviet ( now Russian ) EMP attack on the UK, that would have rendered
useless all electro-mechanical devices, like Electric & Diesel powered trains.
Britain's Strategic Steam Reserve 'cleverly disguised' as Britain's Heritage Railways would have steamed into action to save us. | The following 2 users would like to thank John William for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | From the list, Finland is the huge WTF?. Independent since about a century ago, but apparently not enough time to fix some things. | | | | | To what end? Its north is basically empty, there may not even be a railway line. The southern parts will favor ships for whatever heads west. That leaves Russia as the main trading partner.
Don't fix what isn't broken.
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