 | | | 
28.12.2014, 17:03
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | About "Ukraine also has suspended all train and bus services to Crimea."
So far as I understand they were little used in the past few months?
It is not only Crimea that is suffering from blackouts also other parts of Ukraine.
As I wrote in this post, Russia has a problem to keep Crimea supplied with fuel and energy over the winter. 
This part of the Crimea takeover was not well thought out.
Best solution for Russia would be to capture a land bridge to Crimea but who knows what sort of hell that would unleash?  | | | | | Ukraine has agreed to buy the electricity from Russia with a big discount and for that let Russia supply the power to Crimea through the Ukrainian territory. When Ukraine has no money for their power supply, they feel OK to they turn off the lights in Crimea and ask Russia for discount..
| 
28.12.2014, 19:13
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,667
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,160 Times in 13,157 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Ukraine has agreed to buy the electricity from Russia with a big discount and for that let Russia supply the power to Crimea through the Ukrainian territory. When Ukraine has no money for their power supply, they feel OK to they turn off the lights in Crimea and ask Russia for discount.. | | | | | Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak announced yesterday that Russia has agreed on a new deal to supply coal and electricity to Ukraine.
Supplies will come at Russian domestic prices, Kozak said, adding that he hoped the move would help ensure reliable energy supplies to Crimea.
According to the Kiev Post "Kremlin-backed insurgents are transporting large quantities of coal from East Ukraine to Russia, which has now offered to sell the coal back to Kyiv. " | 
29.12.2014, 19:20
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
On Dec 23 the Ukrainian Parlament voted, and today Poroshenko has signed the bill dropping the Ukraine's non-aligned status. Ukraine is ready for the NATO membership ))
| 
07.01.2015, 18:19
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,466
Groaned at 115 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 1,624 Times in 911 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Slovenia Summit 2001, G.W.Bush about Putin: Slovenia_Summit_2001 | Quote: |  | | | I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialogue and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship. | | | | | This Monday François Hollande told France Inter Radio: | Quote: |  | | | The French president added that his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, "does not want to annex eastern Ukraine he told me that. | | | | | http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...ushpmg00000067 | 
08.01.2015, 01:18
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,667
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,160 Times in 13,157 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I suppose if you are looking at losing an order worth 2 billion then you must put on your optimistic spectacles?
| This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
08.01.2015, 01:28
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Geneva
Posts: 82
Groaned at 11 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 49 Times in 26 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | At present, airlinks from Ukraine to the Krim have become non-existing, and new airlinks from Russia only get started step by step. East Ukraine will get Russian banks, but far more slowly than potentially lucrative Crimea. Interesting will be the development of the wine industry in the Crimea. Not least the Crimea Champagne but also the Red and White wines. | | | | | Ne ponial. Wine industry there is for century no ? What could be greatly new with exportation to Russia ?
I guess than Russia has no money for development of Crimea. It's old time of sanatorii there.
| 
08.01.2015, 01:42
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,466
Groaned at 115 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 1,624 Times in 911 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | I suppose if you are looking at losing an order worth 2 billion then you must put on your optimistic spectacles? | | | | |
If just two billions would make Hollande walk... No wonder that in German language "Grand Nation" is used only as ironical reference to France. There must be much more money to be made/lost by French business.
I cannot think he was voicing concerns of Côte d'Azur property market :-)
| 
08.01.2015, 19:12
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 18,967
Groaned at 332 Times in 257 Posts
Thanked 11,715 Times in 6,858 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Ne ponial. Wine industry there is for century no ? What could be greatly new with exportation to Russia ?
I guess than Russia has no money for development of Crimea. It's old time of sanatorii there. | | | | |
Go to COOP and ALDI and LIDL and DENNER. They still have KRIM-SEKT on their shelves. What I mean is the exports to WESTERN EUROPE. When on a visit to Moscow in 2001, I started to love the wines from GEORGIA. The Crimea does not need so much money but a bit care. I am sure that Russia will invest there in order to get profits
| 
09.01.2015, 14:27
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,466
Groaned at 115 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 1,624 Times in 911 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | 
09.01.2015, 21:41
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Geneva
Posts: 82
Groaned at 11 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 49 Times in 26 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Go to COOP and ALDI and LIDL and DENNER. They still have KRIM-SEKT on their shelves. What I mean is the exports to WESTERN EUROPE. When on a visit to Moscow in 2001, I started to love the wines from GEORGIA. The Crimea does not need so much money but a bit care. I am sure that Russia will invest there in order to get profits | | | | | West europe is against annexion of Crimea by Russia. There is a boycott of investments in Crimea and crimean products. Russia has promised many things about Crimea but has no money for a bright future of this ukrainian peninsula. About wine, it's good wine. But not better than Moldovan or Georgian )
| 
09.01.2015, 22:21
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,466
Groaned at 115 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 1,624 Times in 911 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Go to COOP and ALDI and LIDL and DENNER. They still have KRIM-SEKT on their shelves. | | | | | Everybody knows Switzerland will go to bed with anybody if there is business to be made.
| This user would like to thank yacek for this useful post: | | This user groans at yacek for this post: | | 
09.01.2015, 22:24
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Geneva
Posts: 82
Groaned at 11 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 49 Times in 26 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Everybody knows Switzerland will go to bed with anybody if there is business to be made. | | | | | Don't be stupid.
| This user would like to thank Helvetia1967 for this useful post: | | 
09.01.2015, 23:06
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,667
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,160 Times in 13,157 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | West europe is against annexion of Crimea by Russia. There is a boycott of investments in Crimea and crimean products. Russia has promised many things about Crimea but has no money for a bright future of this ukrainian peninsula. About wine, it's good wine. But not better than Moldovan or Georgian ) | | | | | Russia has enough problems simply keeping Crimea supplied with enough food and energy over this winter before they start worrying about investing for the future.
Luckily for everyone they seem to have given up on the idea of invading Ukraine at this time to create a "land bridge" to Crimea. The weather now is a strong deterrent, currently a higher than usual -2C with light snow?
The ruble has fallen to below 60 to the US $ again! So they have enough to worry about. The oil price (now down to 50) will soon start impacting the price formula on existing Russian oil and gas contracts.
| The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
09.01.2015, 23:49
|  | Junior Member | | Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Geneva
Posts: 82
Groaned at 11 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 49 Times in 26 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
"Let's start to build the bridge between Crimea and Russia" )
| 
10.01.2015, 10:53
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Glattbrugg
Posts: 18,967
Groaned at 332 Times in 257 Posts
Thanked 11,715 Times in 6,858 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO725Hbzfls
similar to what the German Imperial Chancellor and Leader of the German Empire Herr Adolf Hitler told Neville Chamberlain
| This user would like to thank Wollishofener for this useful post: | | 
11.01.2015, 14:13
| Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vaud
Posts: 1,466
Groaned at 115 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 1,624 Times in 911 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
How Russia nationalizes on large scale properties and businesses in Crimea to make the ends meet of the Crimean budget: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/11...lm-studio.html | 
12.01.2015, 22:15
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CHE
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 75 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 3,225 Times in 1,406 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
If anyone happens to see this person in Geneva at a cash-machine stuffing money into a duffel-bag, be sure to call the police, he's on Interpol's wanted list  (he may be accompanied by a short, balding Russian President) http://www.interpol.int/notice/search/wanted/2014-13031
Also, an interesting article about Russia's reaction to the Charlie Hebdo attack in France.... | Quote: |  | | | And so even if Putin now wants to quickly pivot and say, "Hey everyone, let's agree both that Ukraine got a little out of hand and that our real enemies are the kind of people who killed all those journalists," his practical ability to do so is extremely limited.
The Kremlin, in other words, can have a foreign policy and accompanying media strategy that generally try to play up the country's similarities and common interests with the West — "al-Qaida thinks we're all infidels so we need to stick together" — or it can have a policy that deliberately tries to accentuate the country's unique, Eurasian characteristics — "Europe is decadent, dying and corrupt so we need to aggressively defend Russia's fundamental Christian values." But these are mutually exclusive strategies.
Trying to do both, as Russia is doing at the moment, might at first glance appear savvy or sophisticated, as if Russia has some kind of elaborate scheme that it is skillfully implementing. But it's not. Simultaneously berating the West as a hive of moral degenerates and reminding the West that it is a close ally in the struggle against terrorism is simply a mess of self-contradictory nonsense.
The longer that Russia follows two such diametrically opposed strategies, the greater the risk of total incoherence. That won't make Russia look strong; it won't even make it look weak. It'll just make it look schizophrenic and crazy.
| | | | | http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinio...ns/514190.html | 
14.01.2015, 08:18
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Fighting in the E. Ukraine has intensified, people are being killed every day. 11 people died and 13 more were injured as a bus was shelled in the eastern Donetsk region, Ukraine’s Interior Ministry said. Denis Pushilin, Donetsk People’s Republic representative at Minsk talks, said the attack may have been staged by Kiev.
In Eastern Urkainan city of Shakhtersk two brothers have been hit by a mine. The 5 year old was killed and the 8 year old Ivan badly injured -- he has lost both legs and an arm and became almost blind. It's impossible to look at the published photos of the kid.
| 
16.01.2015, 09:51
|  | Forum Veteran | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CHE
Posts: 1,361
Groaned at 75 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 3,225 Times in 1,406 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Now that the flag-waving party is over, reality of the hangover kicks in. Where is all the money and good life that Putin promised them? Seems to only be getting worse there...
...but politics aside, it really just made practical sense for Crimea to be part of Ukraine due to the land connection. With Crimeans isolated, it will only remain difficult for them. | Quote: |  | | | News that inflation is running above 63.4 percent in Venezuela won't astonish anyone familiar with that economy. But the locale with the second-highest inflation rate in the world may be more surprising: Crimea.
Consumer prices on the Russian-annexed peninsula in December were 42.5 percent higher than a year earlier, according to data released this week by Crimea's official statistics service. Prices for some food items, such as eggs, meat, flour, and fruit, were up more than 60 percent. That pretty much wipes out the hefty increases in government salaries and pensions that Moscow announced for Crimea after its annexation last spring.
There's no longer any doubt that Crimea's economy has taken a devastating hit over the past year. Tourism, its biggest industry, was down almost 50 percent last summer. With the banking system in shambles, most business now is transacted in cash. Over the Christmas and New Year holidays, Crimeans endured hourslong blackouts as Ukrainian suppliers cut off power. The government in Kiev said Crimea had been exceeding consumption limits at a time when energy is being rationed across Ukraine.
Crimea's only land connection to the outside world is via Ukrainewhich, until its annexation by Russia, was the peninsula's major supplier of everything from tourists, to food, to electric power. Ukraine has sharply curtailed land shipment of goods to Crimea, so most consumer goods now come by ferry from Russia. But capacity on the ferries is limited, leading to shortages and higher prices. | | | | | http://www.businessweek.com/articles...t-in-the-world | The following 2 users would like to thank esto for this useful post: | | 
16.01.2015, 15:46
|  | Forum Legend | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 12,667
Groaned at 769 Times in 650 Posts
Thanked 25,160 Times in 13,157 Posts
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Now that the flag-waving party is over, reality of the hangover kicks in. Where is all the money and good life that Putin promised them? Seems to only be getting worse there...
...but politics aside, it really just made practical sense for Crimea to be part of Ukraine due to the land connection. With Crimeans isolated, it will only remain difficult for them. http://www.businessweek.com/articles...t-in-the-world | | | | | About "the second-highest inflation rate in the world may be more surprising: Crimea."
Not really surprising, Ukraine prices were much lower than Russian and now Crimea has moved to the higher Russian prices - it was forecast.
How good or bad this is depends if everyone now has the higher Russian wages and pensions.
Also Crimea may not be so popular a holiday destination without the lower prices.
Without the land connection, as I posted before Russia will struggle to keep Crimea supplied with food and energy through the winter.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 5 (0 members and 5 guests) | | Thread Tools | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT +2. The time now is 15:02. | |