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16.03.2014, 20:34
| | | Quote: | |  | | | Right. As Moldovans with Romanians, oder?
No, actually not. | | | | | I don't know  let's ask Dougal's Breakfast and the rest of the world. | Quote: | |  | | | Or chose not to vote in the first place as two Ukrainian women interviewed by the Beeb did. | | | | | The referendum turnout is reportedly exceeded 80%
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16.03.2014, 21:05
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Did you actually see the "protests"? It was nothing but well organized CIA attempt to bring down a legitimate democratic government. Sure, Yanu was no saint, but imagine the "people" doing this on Capitol Hill?
The UK, Germany, Turkey already said to the US they will not engage in any economic or whatever sanctions against Russia... I think this should tell you something?
The US tried to take over what was a democratic government which people choose to be closer to Russia, nothing wrong with that. All hell broke loose after US funding and helping the "protesters" and brought UA on the brink of civil war. This is all happening in Russia's backyard, so what do you think Putin will do when he is provoked? | | | | | Alternative conspiracy theory, the revolution was Russian funded so they would have an excuse to walk in?
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16.03.2014, 21:09
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The referendum turnout is reportedly exceeded 80% | | | | | Impressive, 24% are Ukrainian and 12% Tatars and they all want to be Russian | 
16.03.2014, 21:18
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Impressive, 24% are Ukrainian and 12% Tatars and they all want to be Russian  | | | | | Lots of people from different countries become Swiss every year.. Do you find this strange?
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16.03.2014, 23:59
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Alternative conspiracy theory, the revolution was Russian funded so they would have an excuse to walk in? | | | | | marton, will you participate physically in on of the next meetings this forum offers? If yes, which one?
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17.03.2014, 00:04
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | The Krasnodar Region already IS Russian and gives Russia direct access to the Krim. | | | | | They still have to (re)build the bridge. | 
17.03.2014, 08:24
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Crimea only had 95% of the vote to join Russia? In North Korea, they get 100%, somebody in Crimea is getting lazy...
Anyway, as "Uncle Joe" always said: | The following 5 users would like to thank esto for this useful post: | | 
17.03.2014, 08:29
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Right. As Moldovans with Romanians, oder?
No, actually not. | | | | | Aren't Moldovians Romanians under a differnent flag ?
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17.03.2014, 08:42
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Aren't Moldovians Romanians under a differnent flag ? | | | | | That's not important. There are Moldovan-Romanian dictionaries as far as I know.
If (given its own aspirations and desires) Moldova will be part of the E.U. one day, there will be a few more jobs as interpreters/translators, apparently. See, everybody wins.
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17.03.2014, 10:30
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Crimea only had 95% of the vote to join Russia? In North Korea, they get 100%, somebody in Crimea is getting lazy...
Anyway, as "Uncle Joe" always said:  | | | | | That's nothing; Iran always has over 100% voting
Versus only 80% in Crim.
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17.03.2014, 13:19
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | About "radio active dust" - is the Crimea really worth this; I believe Merkel's comment about Putin (not in the real world) was correct?
If it goes nuclear then any of us who are left alive will be able to watch the Black Sea fleet rusting quietly away since there will be nobody left to use the ships. | 
17.03.2014, 13:34
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | About "radio active dust" | | | | |
It was a comment made by Russia's equivalent of Bill o' Reilly: | Quote: |  | | | Kiselyov has earned a reputation as one of Russia's most provocative television news hosts, in particularly with his often blatantly homophobic remarks.
But he is also hugely influential with his weekly news show broadcast at Sunday evening prime time. | | | | |
I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: |  | | | It was a comment made by Russia's equivalent of Bill o' Reilly:
I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does. | | | | | About "I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does" - I doubt the Russian's have the same freedom of speech as Mr o' Reilly enjoys? For example, The assassination of Anna Politkovskaya
So the Russian press is full of denials by the people responsible for official policy?
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17.03.2014, 13:44
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | About "I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does" - I doubt the Russian's have the same freedom of speech as Mr o' Reilly enjoys? For example, The assassination of Anna Politkovskaya 
So the Russian press is full of denials by the people responsible for official policy?
About "his often blatantly homophobic remarks." - supporting Putin's policies then  | | | | |
Yeah, but he's an entertainer and a shitstirrer. That's his job.
Looks to me like he's quite good at it. | 
17.03.2014, 13:50
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: |  | | | Yeah, but he's an entertainer and a shitstirrer. That's his job.
Looks to me like he's quite good at it.  | | | | | Are you referring to Putin or Kiselyov? | The following 3 users would like to thank esto for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?
Kiselyov seems to be a real rebel! | Quote: |  | | | | | | | | Wonder who writes his scripts.
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17.03.2014, 15:08
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | Kiselyov seems to be a real rebel! | | | | |
Who said he was a rebel? He's an entertainer, a professional gobshite. He was out to shock, and he got the response he wanted.
You'd think people who are familiar with the Daily Mail would understand such a notion.
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| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: |  | | | Who said he was a rebel? He's an entertainer, a professional gobshite. He was out to shock, and he got the response he wanted.
You'd think people who are familiar with the Daily Mail would understand such a notion. | | | | | He's not exactly some run-of-the-mill tabloid rag columnist; he's hand-picked by Putin and appearing on a major Russian TV channel. What he says reaches millions of households and plants seeds into people's minds.
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17.03.2014, 15:33
| | Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? | Quote: | |  | | | He's not exactly some run-of-the-mill tabloid rag columnist; he's hand-picked by Putin and appearing on a major Russian TV channel. What he says reaches millions of households and plants seeds into people's minds. | | | | |
Er, yeah. So what? The words of Rush Limbaugh reach millions of households. He's still a professional gobshite.
Seriously, you don't honestly think Putin is planning on starting a nuclear war, do you?
A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss here. Ukraine is expendible. Obama is a coward and the leaders of the EU are more interested in lining their pockets than making a stand.
There's no reason to have a war, because there's nothing worth fighting over.
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