World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine? - Page 7

#**121** 16.03.2014, 20:34

	Quote:	greenmount
	Right. As Moldovans with Romanians, oder? No, actually not.

I don't know

let's ask Dougal's Breakfast and the rest of the world.

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	Or chose not to vote in the first place as two Ukrainian women interviewed by the Beeb did.

The referendum turnout is reportedly exceeded 80%

marton · #**122** 16.03.2014, 21:05

	Quote:	idefix
	Did you actually see the "protests"? It was nothing but well organized CIA attempt to bring down a legitimate democratic government. Sure, Yanu was no saint, but imagine the "people" doing this on Capitol Hill? The UK, Germany, Turkey already said to the US they will not engage in any economic or whatever sanctions against Russia... I think this should tell you something? The US tried to take over what was a democratic government which people choose to be closer to Russia, nothing wrong with that. All hell broke loose after US funding and helping the "protesters" and brought UA on the brink of civil war. This is all happening in Russia's backyard, so what do you think Putin will do when he is provoked?

Alternative conspiracy theory, the revolution was Russian funded so they would have an excuse to walk in?

marton · #**123** 16.03.2014, 21:09

	Quote:	leonie
	The referendum turnout is reportedly exceeded 80%

Impressive, 24% are Ukrainian and 12% Tatars and they all want to be Russian

#**124** 16.03.2014, 21:18

	Quote:	marton
	Impressive, 24% are Ukrainian and 12% Tatars and they all want to be Russian

Lots of people from different countries become Swiss every year.. Do you find this strange?

ground · #**125** 16.03.2014, 23:59

	Quote:	marton
	Alternative conspiracy theory, the revolution was Russian funded so they would have an excuse to walk in?

marton, will you participate physically in on of the next meetings this forum offers? If yes, which one?

Faltrad · #**126** 17.03.2014, 00:04

	Quote:	Wollishofener
	The Krasnodar Region already IS Russian and gives Russia direct* access to the Krim.*

They still have to (re)build the bridge.

esto · #**127** 17.03.2014, 08:24

Crimea only had 95% of the vote to join Russia? In North Korea, they get 100%, somebody in Crimea is getting lazy...

Anyway, as "Uncle Joe" always said:

Wollishofener · #**128** 17.03.2014, 08:29

	Quote:	greenmount
	Right. As Moldovans with Romanians, oder? No, actually not.

Aren't Moldovians Romanians under a differnent flag ?

greenmount · #**129** 17.03.2014, 08:42

	Quote:	Wollishofener
	Aren't Moldovians Romanians under a differnent flag ?

That's not important. There are Moldovan-Romanian dictionaries as far as I know.
If (given its own aspirations and desires) Moldova will be part of the E.U. one day, there will be a few more jobs as interpreters/translators, apparently. See, everybody wins.

esto · #**130** 17.03.2014, 09:45

As the United States condemned a referendum on the future of the Crimean peninsula staged by pro-Russian separatists on Sunday, one of Russia’s most influential television hosts appeared on the evening news in Moscow, before a huge mushroom cloud graphic, to remind viewers that Russia is still “the only country in the world capable of turning the U.S.A. into radioactive dust.”

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/201...minds-viewers/

marton · #**131** 17.03.2014, 10:30

	Quote:	esto
	Crimea only had 95% of the vote to join Russia? In North Korea, they get 100%, somebody in Crimea is getting lazy... Anyway, as "Uncle Joe" always said:

That's nothing; Iran always has over 100% voting

Versus only 80% in Crim.

marton · #**132** 17.03.2014, 13:19

	Quote:	esto
	As the United States condemned a referendum on the future of the Crimean peninsula staged by pro-Russian separatists on Sunday, one of Russia’s most influential television hosts appeared on the evening news in Moscow, before a huge mushroom cloud graphic, to remind viewers that Russia is still “the only country in the world capable of turning the U.S.A. into radioactive dust.” http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/201...minds-viewers/

About "radio active dust" - is the Crimea really worth this; I believe Merkel's comment about Putin (not in the real world) was correct?
If it goes nuclear then any of us who are left alive will be able to watch the Black Sea fleet rusting quietly away since there will be nobody left to use the ships.

#**133** 17.03.2014, 13:34

	Quote:	marton
	About "radio active dust"

It was a comment made by Russia's equivalent of Bill o' Reilly:

	Quote:
	Kiselyov has earned a reputation as one of Russia's most provocative television news hosts, in particularly with his often blatantly homophobic remarks. But he is also hugely influential with his weekly news show broadcast at Sunday evening prime time.

I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does.

marton · #**134** 17.03.2014, 13:42

	Quote:
	It was a comment made by Russia's equivalent of Bill o' Reilly: I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does.

About "I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does" - I doubt the Russian's have the same freedom of speech as Mr o' Reilly enjoys? For example, The assassination of Anna Politkovskaya

So the Russian press is full of denials by the people responsible for official policy?

About "his often blatantly homophobic remarks." - supporting Putin's policies then

#**135** 17.03.2014, 13:44

	Quote:	marton
	About "I doubt he represents official policy any more than Mr o' Reilly does" - I doubt the Russian's have the same freedom of speech as Mr o' Reilly enjoys? For example, The assassination of Anna Politkovskaya So the Russian press is full of denials by the people responsible for official policy? About "his often blatantly homophobic remarks." - supporting Putin's policies then

Yeah, but he's an entertainer and a shitstirrer. That's his job.

Looks to me like he's quite good at it.

esto · #**136** 17.03.2014, 13:50

	Quote:
	Yeah, but he's an entertainer and a shitstirrer. That's his job. Looks to me like he's quite good at it.

Are you referring to Putin or Kiselyov?

Reb77Br · #**137** 17.03.2014, 14:16

Kiselyov seems to be a real rebel!

	Quote:
	Dmitry Konstantinovich Kiselyov (Russian: Дми́трий Константи́нович Киселёв, born 26 April 1954) is a Russian journalist. In December 2013 he was appointed by Russian President Vladimir Putin head of the new official Russian government owned international news agency Rossiya Segodnya, a 2,300 person organization made up largely of the former RIA Novosti news agency and the shortwave radio station Voice of Russia. He also serves as deputy director of Russian state TV holding company VGTRK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_...ovich_Kiselyov

Wonder who writes his scripts.

#**138** 17.03.2014, 15:08

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Kiselyov seems to be a real rebel!

Who said he was a rebel? He's an entertainer, a professional gobshite. He was out to shock, and he got the response he wanted.

You'd think people who are familiar with the Daily Mail would understand such a notion.

esto · #**139** 17.03.2014, 15:30

	Quote:
	Who said he was a rebel? He's an entertainer, a professional gobshite. He was out to shock, and he got the response he wanted. You'd think people who are familiar with the Daily Mail would understand such a notion.

He's not exactly some run-of-the-mill tabloid rag columnist; he's hand-picked by Putin and appearing on a major Russian TV channel. What he says reaches millions of households and plants seeds into people's minds.

#**140** 17.03.2014, 15:33

	Quote:	esto
	He's not exactly some run-of-the-mill tabloid rag columnist; he's hand-picked by Putin and appearing on a major Russian TV channel. What he says reaches millions of households and plants seeds into people's minds.

Er, yeah. So what? The words of Rush Limbaugh reach millions of households. He's still a professional gobshite.

Seriously, you don't honestly think Putin is planning on starting a nuclear war, do you?

A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss here. Ukraine is expendible. Obama is a coward and the leaders of the EU are more interested in lining their pockets than making a stand.

There's no reason to have a war, because there's nothing worth fighting over.